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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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I think I'm having a stupid attack...please help!!!

So I'm lookin at my truck, trying to figure what color to paint it, and just sort of an overall direction to go with it as I'm taking it apart. That's where the trouble starts. I looked up some of the records and classes on the SCTA site. I found the record for production pickup c is around 173 mph. So, here is the question, do I have a giant brain tumor thinking it would be possible (okay, remotely possible) to make one of these old truck go that fast, or nearly that fast with something around 375 ci? There is the 130 mph club, then the 150 mph club, so we could sneeeek up on it...lol. I dunno, just got me thinking. I have a 66 Galaxie that I had always planned on doing that with, but this may be an interesting challenge. I think I'll order up the rule book and do some research, but I think it may be possible to go 150 on a reasonable budget.....what do you guys think? I'm not sure if I'm asking you guys to talk me out of it, or talk me into it...lol
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 05:26 AM
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Aerodynamics of a barn...I think you'd have a huge struggle unless you cut the roof off at the base of the windshield.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 06:01 AM
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I have no idea what it would take to get a Slick up in the 140mph range. The wind will stop it first. I have run my 66 up to 100mph in second to see if it would, so 140 would not be out of the realm if the air would flow over it. These ol trucks are like shoving a brick down the road, so the first thing one must overcome is the wall of air.



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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 07:54 AM
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You may want to get one of those Big Spoilers I see that the kids are driving around with on their 4 door Corola's so your truck wont catch air, You know hold it down while driving 140. Or it may help to lift it off at 140, I didn't think about that. Maybe if you put one at the front and the back of the truck it will just take off and when you fall back to earth you will set an all time record for top speed of a Slick. Speaking of Stupid Attacks, im going to shut up now.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Anythings possible. All it takes is time, energy, and a dumptruck full of money! Have you ever been to the salt flats? Amazing things happen there.....even a brick can go 200 mph. I think it would be cool to get a slick to fly. Go for it. T/M
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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They did some segments on TruckU (Speed Channel) last year on prepping a dentside or a bumpside (I get them mixed up)anyway a similar shape to a SLICK for a Bonneville Run. Not sure how fast it finally ran, guess I missed that show.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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I would say get it as low to the ground as posible and ad a chin spoiler. Chop the top and take it to a wind tunnel to see if you can get it to flow over it nicly and create the spinning barrel affect in the bed that lets the air flow over the bed insead of droping right after the cab. (saw it on mythbusters, they took 2 06? f150s that were to as close as identical as they could get and one with the tail gate down and one with the tailgate up to test fuel millage. the one with the tail gate up went significanly further on the same gas because of the "rolling barrel effect" witch signicantly helps areodynamics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3aqHbD-O9E watch untill about 1:20 it shows what i was talking about ) Then i would say put some serious power under the hood with highspeed gears and you could make a run for that title.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Get yourself a rulebook first........rules dictate what mods you can make in each class, plus safety rules. "Production" classes require totally stock appearance....no body mods etc. The pickup classes are relatively new, (last 10 years or so), so there may be some records to be had there. Good luck T/M
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman52
Production" classes require totally stock appearance

lol should have figured that, just forget about my other post lol
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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These are the things that are interesting to me. I've done alot of research on "stock" and "modified" classes concerning my Galaxie, but Some may apply here. While the modified class does look interesting, the "stock" class would be much more of a challenge, and would be much cooler to have a "stock" truck run fast. I think the horespower is actually the easy part. I've done the math, and the horespower/rpm/tire rollout etc numbers mostly work on paper, but we don't race paper. I think the idea of getting it low, and putting some kind of air dam to keep the air out from under it would be a huge help. Not only to keep the front down, but to keep the rear from getting light. And there may be some "gains" to be made from the air dam. I have a couple thoughts there. But I think the rear is actually the secret. I think traction is the key to pushing a not so slippery truck to high speeds. I think even six hundred horsepower would make a pretty big number IF it could hook up on the salt. So I think the bed actually holds the key. So check my logic here....it's a long bed, which may be an advantage. I think leave the tailgate on, but leave it down. Take all but one or two leafs out of the rear, and use a drag race type shock to keep the rear relatively compliant, but not to soft or bouncy. So any air that makes it into the bed, would tavel out over the tailgate, that hopefully is acting like a spoiler that's helping to hold down the rear. Even if it's not alot, because it's so far behind the rear wheels, the leverage on it would be greater than no tailgate at all. There is also the thought of running the exhaust towards the rear of the bedin an effort to creat a low pressure area under the rear of the bed, allowing what little air makes it in the bed can actually help push down on it. One of the next steps is to hit the next big meet and see how the rules are actually applied, and to see what we can get away with....lol. I've even thought of building a 25% wind tunnel and using a 1/24 scale truck to do some testing...jeez, am I out of my mind?
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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Here you go!

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...1F78CD26685D9B

Enjoy!
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 02:18 AM
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sounds like a good idea... but then again i like going fast... let us know when your gonna go for the run... im sure alot of us would love to see it...

theres a company that makes fiberglass bed side skins door skins... and front fenders and hood... or just a whole front clip for slicks if you want to loose some weight...
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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It takes about 300 hp to push that brick to 126mph. There is a BIG difference between 126 and 173. A lot of naturally aspirated hp, among other things will be needed for that record. Go for it!
RocketMonkey,
I can get you in contact with Charlie so you can get a better feel for the rules. He drives the Yellow '57. A lot of that you mention most likely will not be allowed for a production class.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Hey Charlie, I would in fact like to talk with him, thanks for the hook up! That is such a great looking truck! But I would like to talk with him about some roll cage specific things and choosing production or modified. I would think the way to approach this would be to build a production legal truck, get my licence, make the 130 club, then really try to learn about the truck and sort it out. I don't want to say it would be easy to reach 130 with a 460, but I think it would be reliable and affordable to do. After the truck was sorted, then maybe make a run at 150 with the 460, see if it will go that fast, then start looking at engine choices to actually make a run for a D or C record. Here is a little added incentive...the truck that has those records now is a chevy.....
 
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 03:31 AM
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I saw a slick 60's truck win on one of the first episodes of "Pinks all out". a lady was driving it, too. I was cool to see it win. It may have even been a unibody, but I can't quite remember. You probably just need to lighten it up as much as possible, as well as get some HP.
 
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