Notices
1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator 1997 - 2002 and 2003 - 2006 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator Discussion

Need help with a/c

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 22, 2009 | 02:47 PM
  #1  
99f250craig's Avatar
99f250craig
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Need help with a/c

I have a EB 03 Expedition. Front a/c works great, blows about 40 degs. Rear only blows around 75deg. Both blend doors are working. I put the gauges on it and its reading about 30 on the low and 170 on the high side. It also sounds like the compressor is clicking alot. Are these numbers normal? Also how could front blow so good and the rear be warm?
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2009 | 03:21 PM
  #2  
alloro's Avatar
alloro
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Shutterbug
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 24,322
Likes: 5,132
From: 0,0,1
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by 99f250craig
Both blend doors are working.
How do you know this? Just because the arm moves all the way over doesn't mean the door is sealing or isn't damaged inside the assembly.
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2009 | 09:42 PM
  #3  
99f250craig's Avatar
99f250craig
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by alloro
How do you know this? Just because the arm moves all the way over doesn't mean the door is sealing or isn't damaged inside the assembly.

I pulled the motor off the ceiling/ floor blend door and pushed it open to watch the other one. I had my wife turn the temp **** from hot to cold. It opened and closed fine. I then observed the floor/ceiling door and it too worked fine. I also noticed the evap coil is getting cool.
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 10:32 AM
  #4  
alloro's Avatar
alloro
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Shutterbug
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 24,322
Likes: 5,132
From: 0,0,1
Club FTE Gold Member
Then the only possibility left is a restriction within a hose or the evaporator core for the rear unit. I believe the hoses going to and from the evaporator core run under the truck. That being said, it's possible that one of them got damaged/crushed if you either went off-road, or hit something that bounced up from the road.
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 08:34 PM
  #5  
99f250craig's Avatar
99f250craig
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Does freon constantly run to rear or only when the rear a/c is turned on?
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 09:33 PM
  #6  
99ExpyProblems's Avatar
99ExpyProblems
Posting Guru
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,590
Likes: 0
If you've checked everything else, it must be the expansion valve in the evap.

You can make a quick check by feeling the pipes that bring refrigerant to the rear unit. With the truck idling and the A/C on max, one will be hot and the other will be cold if your rear A/C is operating correctly. If both are hot, then the expansion valve is wide open.
 
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2009 | 10:15 AM
  #7  
RedHorse1's Avatar
RedHorse1
Senior User
15 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 348
Likes: 1
If the rear evap is only getting cool then it won't make very cold air. It should get pretty dang cold.
99ExpyProblems,
You mention the expansion valve. I assume the front/rear each have their own. If he is getting good pressures (thinking mostly about the high side) I would think the expansion valve wouldn't be stuck open, but maybe mostly blocked with debris.
 
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2009 | 01:14 PM
  #8  
99ExpyProblems's Avatar
99ExpyProblems
Posting Guru
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,590
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by ttunnell
If the rear evap is only getting cool then it won't make very cold air. It should get pretty dang cold.
99ExpyProblems,
You mention the expansion valve. I assume the front/rear each have their own. If he is getting good pressures (thinking mostly about the high side) I would think the expansion valve wouldn't be stuck open, but maybe mostly blocked with debris.
Yes, on the front and rear have their own evap and expansion valve. a 'rule of thumb' is that the Evaporator should read about 25-30 degrees (based on your low-side pressure) with all the doors shut, truck idling and the A/C on max.

If the expansion valve is working correctly, the evaporator in the rear will get cold. If the expansion valve is stuck shut, the evap will not be cold. From what I understand, this is a pretty common problem with Rear A/C on Ford vehicles. Well, that, and the blend doors! Unfortunately, this is only an educated guess, and results in replacing the expansion valve, but more importantly, reclaiming all refrigerant and pulling a vacuum on the system and replace filter drier. It's not cheap, but just wanted to let you know...
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:38 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE