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Old 08-24-2009, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wizardsr
Why fix what aint broke? Isn't that how Ford got in trouble with the 6.0?

As for all those that complain about the aging cab, think about how long Ford used the same cabs on the previous gen F-series before the 97 F150 and 99 Superduty...

I can tell you this though, Ford needs to step it up in the paint quality department. I have paint flaking and rust on my 05 but not my 01, something changed in 4 years, and not for the better...
You must be right. Forgive my thoughts. Ford should keep using the current cab. They should not attempt to freshen the body style in the foreseeable future to avoid getting into trouble.
 
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:55 AM
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The only thing that I really dont like on the newer model trucks is the headlights. If there was a way to integrate the 05-07 headlights, it would be SICK!

One thing I really really like is the bad *** SUPER DUTY on the hood edge and on the rear bumper.
 
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THe front end of that thing looks like a stinking GMC 3500??? Ford needs to quit messing with a good thing! The 1999-2007 was 1 sweet truck and I thought it still looks the best of them all! I do like the interior upgrades a ton though!!
 
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Originally Posted by wizardsr
As for all those that complain about the aging cab, think about how long Ford used the same cabs on the previous gen F-series before the 97 F150 and 99 Superduty...

I can tell you this though, Ford needs to step it up in the paint quality department. I have paint flaking and rust on my 05 but not my 01, something changed in 4 years, and not for the better...
Yhea, 1980-1996 for F-100 and F-150 models. It wasn't because the cab was a great design, it's because Ford was in the business of making money. That's why all cabs in that range are prone to the same rust out in the same places. Sure, they slapped some fancy new dashes in, but most of the stuff from the windows to the seats bolt right in. All they really changed were the doors from 80-86 to 87-91. After that there was a minor change in the corner window, from 92-to the end of the style, the edge of the window was squared, not round as was previously the case.

I hear you on that paint though, god. My mom's '99 Cougar has great paint on it, but my '03 Focus was spotty underneath the clear.
 
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The reason for the larger hood design is to fit the new 6.7L and tranny under it. It is much bigger than the previous Power Strokes. It will be a Ford built diesel kinda on the Navistar 7.3L platform. It will be a beast and lots of tourq right off the showroom floor. Also it will have a Urea tank and pump to "scrub" the nitrogen oxide from the exhaust....thanks EPA!(oh brother). Any way the good thing is the Urea will not hinder power like the other scrubber used now.
 
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The 6.7 Scorpion shares nothing in common with any International engine, including the 7.3. The Scorpion/6.7 is based on a Land Rover V8 Diesel.
 
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The 6.7 Scorpion shares nothing in common with any International engine, including the 7.3. The Scorpion/6.7 is based on a Land Rover V8 Diesel.
The 6.7 will not be a twin turbo but KINDA like the 7.3 was.
 
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Batter than the v10 you are out of your mind!
Well if it makes more power and tq and gets better gas mileage I would say the 6.2L will be better then the v-10.
 
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Well if it makes more power and tq and gets better gas mileage I would say the 6.2L will be better then the v-10.
They will be hard pressed to generate more torque from 8 cylinders than from 10 cylinders, with less displacement.

5 firings per revolution versus 4 makes for a higher "average" torque. 462ft/lbs (what the 3-valve V10 puts out) with 415 cubes, while the 6.2 is only 378 cubes or so. It will be interesting to compare the two, that's for sure.
 
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They will be hard pressed to generate more torque from 8 cylinders than from 10 cylinders, with less displacement.

5 firings per revolution versus 4 makes for a higher "average" torque. 462ft/lbs (what the 3-valve V10 puts out) with 415 cubes, while the 6.2 is only 378 cubes or so. It will be interesting to compare the two, that's for sure.
There is no replacement for displacement!!
 
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I dont get it you cant find a v10 on the used car lots and everybody thats got one loves it...they should drop the 5.4 and keep the psd and the 6.8 and then you would weed out the socer moms....... and the folks that want these trucks would be happy
 
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There is no replacement for displacement!!
Yeah there is. Its called diesel.
 
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There is no replacement for displacement!!
when talking strictly about torque, yes there is, it's called stroke. Monster torque without the high end HP...
 
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Originally Posted by wizardsr
Why fix what aint broke? Isn't that how Ford got in trouble with the 6.0?

As for all those that complain about the aging cab, think about how long Ford used the same cabs on the previous gen F-series before the 97 F150 and 99 Superduty...

I can tell you this though, Ford needs to step it up in the paint quality department. I have paint flaking and rust on my 05 but not my 01, something changed in 4 years, and not for the better...

X2 on the paint flaking. I wash my truck almost weekly, under carriage too, and the paint blows. I use ICE wax 3 times a year, and I usually clean it with clay to get the impurities out.... But the paint chips off the edges so easy. WTF.... Its paint, shouldn't skimp!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Krewat
They will be hard pressed to generate more torque from 8 cylinders than from 10 cylinders, with less displacement.

5 firings per revolution versus 4 makes for a higher "average" torque. 462ft/lbs (what the 3-valve V10 puts out) with 415 cubes, while the 6.2 is only 378 cubes or so. It will be interesting to compare the two, that's for sure.
I know all of are saying if's and but's, but if the 6.2L makes say 400 hp and 450 tq which I don't see why it couldn't I would say that is a good reason to get rid of the v-10. Now don't get me wrong I'm not ******* the v-10 I wish I got one instead of the 5.4, but oh well I don't pay for my truck my company does and I had no choice. But if the new diesel still have problems and the 6.2L makes that power I wouldn't even hesitate to buying a superduty with the 6.2L.
 


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