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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Lug-Nut Warning

This would apply to the two-piece lug nuts (nut+washer) that Ford uses.

I have 120K on my '03, the aluminum factory wheels have been on several dozen times over it's life, brakes, tire rotation, other maint.

When I went to rotate this times I noticed a front lug nut half way off the stud. Others were a little loose. Since I use an air gun on the nuts, I know I just didn't forget to tighten it.

After examining the washer side that touches the aluminum wheel, I noticed that the ridges in the washer were smoothed in with aluminum; therefore the ridges weren't biting into the wheel anylonger. The aluminum came from the wheels.

I replaced all the lug nuts with new.

Just a note to keep in mind.

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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The duty cycle of a nut tightened to 90+ lb/ft torque should not be the life of the vehicle. Good call in my opinion.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Lugnuts used on the Superduty should be tightened with a Torquewrench to 150 ft/lbs back in early yrs
Now the 09's say 165 ft/lbs.

Impact guns used without torque sticks can warp a rotor if not careful.
Just a FYI

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FortyFords
Lugnuts used on the Superduty should be tightened with a Torquewrench to 150 ft/lbs back in early yrs
Now the 09's say 165 ft/lbs.

Impact guns used without torque sticks can warp a rotor if not careful.
Just a FYI

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99-03 are 150-165lb-ft per lug.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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The tire shops around here tighten to 155 lbs. I thinks wheels coming off is pretty rare.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ruschejj
The duty cycle of a nut tightened to 90+ lb/ft torque should not be the life of the vehicle. Good call in my opinion.
Why not?

Seems the determining factor would be the number of times torqued, not the amount of torque used.

I'm still using the same lug nuts on the Freightliner that came with it. 10 years ago. 400 or so ft-lbs of torque on each one.

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ruschejj
The duty cycle of a nut tightened to 90+ lb/ft torque should not be the life of the vehicle. Good call in my opinion.
I would think that the stud would fatigue before the nut for a torque-to-yield application.

I've always torqued to spec in the correct pattern (in 2 or 3 setting increments to seat the wheel on the hub). I sometimes get movement out of some of the lugs when I check the torques about 50 miles later. After that, no problems. Never had one loosen let alone back off.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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Of course it depends on the number of times they get used. It also depends on the quality of hardware. I know these are good trucks but I don't know how solid the nuts are. (that was kind of funny)

If the OP felt lack of confidence, as would I, I would just assume put new nuts on the truck. (still funny)
 
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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Torgue should always be rechecked after 50-100 miles when you install a wheel. This is especially true with aluminum wheels. Always torqued mine to 155 lb/ft in 3 increments.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 03:02 AM
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glad i just read this mine are at 110ftlb. im noticing some wobble on the front right tire. dam thanks
 
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by brian42

I've always torqued to spec in the correct pattern (in 2 or 3 setting increments to seat the wheel on the hub).
Originally Posted by Greg B
Always torqued mine to 155 lb/ft in 3 increments.
Could one of you guys explain this process?
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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Basically you torque the nuts in stages. I always do it this way. First stage is to 75 ft/lbs following the proper tightening sequence (i.e. in a crossing pattern). Once you get all 8 nuts tighten to 75 ft/lbs you repeat the sequence at 125 ft/lbs for the second stage. Once you get all 8 nuts tighten to 125 ft/lbs you repeat the sequence at 155 ft/lbs for the third and finally stage. I always go around in a circle a fourth time to make sure they are all at 155 ft/lbs.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Monster-4
Basically you torque the nuts in stages. I always do it this way. First stage is to 75 ft/lbs following the proper tightening sequence (i.e. in a crossing pattern). Once you get all 8 nuts tighten to 75 ft/lbs you repeat the sequence at 125 ft/lbs for the second stage. Once you get all 8 nuts tighten to 125 ft/lbs you repeat the sequence at 155 ft/lbs for the third and finally stage. I always go around in a circle a fourth time to make sure they are all at 155 ft/lbs.
Perfect.
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