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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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68 F250 type "A" ATF?

Out here in da woods (backcountry)of SoCal,we couldn't find an Auto Parts store open on Sunday ,so went to many "convenient" stores&ONE gas station,looking for type "F" ATF.NONE was found.So,one Gas station had ONLY some "Chalet products" type "A",ATF! It says you can mix it with ALL fluids in "older vehicles?Wassup with type "A" ATF? I never heard of it? Called Bro-in law(25 years Ford dealer Mech! He NEVER heard of it! Called "The ZONE" ,"They Never heard of it"? Now when you're out here in our County and on the way to the Desert with your Ford Truck("OLDER"),where you gonna get type "F"? So,knowing that,What's type "A" fluid? I searched their website ,to no avail.Type "A" ,anybody know?68 Ford F250 Auto/390V8,2WD
 
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 02:05 AM
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well if you any were near 58 and 395 the pilot should have some type f trans fluid and if they dont and you can push it the next 30 mile then go into the shop at the ta and they will have it if you not any were around there just look for a truck stop with at shop they should have it also i have never heard of type A and i would never put anything in my truck that i didnt know what it was have safe fun trip
 
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 03:42 AM
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Yeah in cases like that it is best to run mercon/dexron III type A has not been a licensed fluid since 1973 the chalet brand is crap it is reused recovered waste oil stay away.I found this on the net.

Gone are the days when ATF was ATF, and nearly all cars ran on the same stuff. Selecting the proper quality of ATF is not as easy as it once was. In the past, ATF was basically called Type A and was used in the primitive transmissions developed in the 1940s. By the 1950s it came in two types: ATF Types A and F. GM used A and Ford used F, but cars would run pretty well on either. However, as transmissions became more advanced, automobile manufacturers introduced fluids specifically designed for their transmissions.


here is is chalet website. Really nice English use huh?
http://www.chaletproducts.com/produc...Transfluid.htm
 
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 06:29 AM
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Type A is the original. It is what I am suppossed to use in my 68 Jag and I think my 58 Edsel calls for it. I am having a hard time finding it. I am told that I can use type F but want to find out more about it before I do. Type F is getting hard to find also.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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Type A

I remember Type A fluid very well. It was the "original" type of fluid used in ALL brands of automatic transmissions and POWER STEERING fluid for all makes and models. Ford later came out with Type F fluid for FORD transmissions only. Type A fluid evolved to (was replaced by) Mercon/Dexron, then Mercon/Dexron II, then Mercon/Dexron III. Mercon/Dexron III is STILL a valid application for older and some foreign vehicles that still specify Type A transmission fluid as well as many Ford and GM vehicles of the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Type A fluid was NEVER OK to use in a Ford transmission that specified type F because of the different friction modifiers in the fluid. For the same reason, it is NOT OK to use type F where mercon/dexron is specified. I believe that it was 1973 when Ford changed clutches, seals, etc and began specifying mercon/dexron in the c4 and c6 transmissions. Also, when the T5 standard transmissions were introduced, they also specified the mercon/dexron type fluid. You need a new/newer Ford before you have to worry about Mercon V and SP fluid.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 60F100
Type A is the original. It is what I am suppossed to use in my 68 Jag and I think my 58 Edsel calls for it. I am having a hard time finding it. I am told that I can use type F but want to find out more about it before I do. Type F is getting hard to find also.
Where did you hear of, or read...that Type A was used in any Ford transmission? All Ford A/T's 1950 thru 1976 use TYPE F including...

1951/64 2 & 3 speed Ford-O-Matic; 1958/67 FX & MX Cruise-O-Matic; 1969/79 FMX; 1956/65 Turbo-Drive (Lincoln); 1950/51 Single & 1952/55 Dual Range Hydra-Matic (Lincoln).

1964/76 C4 / 1966/76 C6. 1977 and later C4/C6 use Mercon.

Some Jags (1951/55 Studebakers) used the 3 band Borg-Warner A/T = TYPE F.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Type F

Well, it has been a long time ago, but I seem to remember using Type A in the 40s and into the 50s on Ford transmissions. Like I said, it has been a long time and I will have to go back and research the precise time table. I certainly don't remember type F going that far back.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Type F ATF is all that's listed in the 1949/59 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalog.

The first FoMoCo vehicle to have an A/T was the 1950 Lincoln/Lincoln Cosmopolitan which used GM's Hydra-Matic (thru 1955).

In 1951, Ford introduced Ford-O-Matic which was used on both Ford's and Merc's, only the Merc's version was called Merc-O-Matic.

The first car in the world to have a fully automatic transmission was the 1940 Oldsmobile.

It's been years since I've owned a 1940's Olds (Cadillac or Pontiac), so I don't recall what fluid these early Single Range 4 speed Hydro's used.

But the same trans was also used in 1950/51 Lincoln's which used Type F.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Thanks Ya'll! Its been an Edumacation!LOL! I could only find type "F" at ONE of Four stores that carry car parts!Our nearest "big town" is Ramona,Ca. and 30 miles from here(Lake Henshaw San Diego County.That type "A",I got at the LaJolla Indian Reservation store/campground/gas station ,on state route 76! $4.99 a quart! My friend wanted to get a gallon ,because he works&lives in the Desert:Borrego Springs,Ca.It's "Downhill from here.That type "F" ,sure is HARD to find!With ALL the older Ford Tucks I see,I couldn't believe it's "rarity"! Thanks agin fer de edgecation!LOL!
 
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Fact of the matter is, type F fluid has better lubrication qualities.

B&M recommended either their proprietary fluid (B&M Trick Shift) or the use of "Type F" in any transmission modified using any of their parts, including GM TH350 &TH400.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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Type F dont have better lubrication properties, It has a higher fraction level and in a TH350, makes for stiffer shifts. I use it in a few of my Chevy project trucks.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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Not what I was told, but I'll buy that.

Either way, B&M said use it.

Thanks for the clarification!!
 
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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68 F250 a "Ranger"?Type F ATF?

My "buds" 68 F250 has the "Ranger" emblem also.I had an F250 Ranger (74)XLT 4X4 also.When I called Autozone to ask about the "mysterious" type "A" ATF,he said "They're" isn't a 68 Ranger"! I beg to differ sir,I had a 74 Full size F250 and my "buds" 68 F250 2WD has Ranger on the side!Anyone?
 
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 05:37 AM
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Autozone wouldn't have parts listed for a 68 Ranger because that was a trim level, not a model. All of the parts would be listed for an F100, etc.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 06:51 AM
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Ok! I learned NOT only Truck Tech.,here,BUT English too!TRIM? No wonder the guy at 'Zone,said the "F"model! Trim type?Thanks,I'm learnin!
 
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