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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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hi i own a 2000 F150 with a 4.6 i installled a hypertech progammer on it and ran it for a lil while to see if i liked it (got a good deal on a used one) and i removed it. my question is would the dealer be able to tell if i had one on it. i didnt change any thing but speed limiter and set it to run on 93 octane gas. which is all that was run in it.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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I do believe they will know. i heard something a while back that you have to remember to do something before you remove it but i don't recall what it is. flash pcm or some mumbo jumbo.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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I think you just need to return it to stock before you take it to the dealer. If the dealer flashes the computer then I don’t think you will be able to use the chip anymore, or you have to get another programmer
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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got it mixed up. i think it's the edge programmer that has the stock tune saved to it in case something like this does happen where you need the stock tune.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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My super chip saves the stock tune saved also. So you can’t install a program in more than one truck at the same time. When you return the truck to stock it can be used on another truck. When the dealer flashes your truck with the 93 tune still in it, the programmer won’t recognize it as the same truck and won’t let you do anything.

But back to your question of will they know. They might if the programming is still installed when you take it in (don’t do that). I don’t think they would care since you probably have 175K miles and are out of warranty. If your truck is still under warranty I wouldn’t mess with anything.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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actually mine had 260k a year and half ago. engin blew and just this spring/begging of fall did i get a reman from ford. it went in under warrently issues because it was installed and wouldnt build oil pressure. ford tore it down said a oil pick up tube was not installed from the factory put one in and said there was no damage from running with no oil circulating for almost ten mins total. so i take it home i had the programmer i installed it drove it a lil while took it out (returned it to stock) and yes mine was vin locked also. and now befor my second oil change in new motor it has a slight bottom end knock then it gets worse. it has no power and runs very rough. so i wanna take it back to the dealer but idk if they will void that warrenty if they find i had a programmer on it. and couldnt i say it was on they truck long befor?? and also i have a buddy who has the same tool the dealer uses and he can remove all saved codes and info? could i do that and make this disappear
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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I have a hypertech and it has a "return to stock" which I would recommend before you take it into the dealer or they will probably void the warranty on the engine. I read in the lit that they couldn't tell once you return it to stock. Once home again retune to performance settings.

Ran a reman engine without oil? If they ran and tested it before dropping into your truck then there is more time on the non lubricated engine. Tell them you want a new one.

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actually mine had 260k a year and half ago. engin blew and just this spring/begging of fall did i get a reman from ford. it went in under warrently issues because it was installed and wouldnt build oil pressure. ford tore it down said a oil pick up tube was not installed from the factory put one in and said there was no damage from running with no oil circulating for almost ten mins total. so i take it home i had the programmer i installed it drove it a lil while took it out (returned it to stock) and yes mine was vin locked also. and now befor my second oil change in new motor it has a slight bottom end knock then it gets worse. it has no power and runs very rough. so i wanna take it back to the dealer but idk if they will void that warrenty if they find i had a programmer on it. and couldnt i say it was on they truck long befor?? and also i have a buddy who has the same tool the dealer uses and he can remove all saved codes and info? could i do that and make this disappear
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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the warrenty as per ford is that any and all damage caused by this will be fixed or repaired to there preferance. well the ford rep found no damage caused by the motor running with no oil leaving the pan. so it was left at that. now i think the rod bearings are spun. and yeah ive only put maybe 1000 on it. dont know speedo dont work so neither does the miles lol
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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I do believe there was a recent post, I think it was called "angry at ford" on this subject.

your best bet is to just return it to stock before you take it in and hope for the best.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Ok all, here is the deal. The software that is loaded (flashed) into the PROM of your engine control unit is what will show up on the dealers scan tool. It will show up as a multiple digit software code. The dealer will then compare the loaded code number with the recent software code that should be installed in your vehicle. I have the snap-on scan tool, and that is all that I can do, verify the correct software. Ford may have a more advanced scan tool that can see more, but I doubt it and also doubt they will pay much mind to it when you have an engine knock. Honestly if you restore the original software you should be fine. They shouldn't need to check your software over an engine knock anyway.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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well i knwo someone who has a scan tool that can go in and read everything and also reset the computer. it delets everything and you enter the vin back into it and it resets its self and is all stock with no codes or andything showed. becasue the for PCM saves all DTC and error codes and all info. this deletes this info. like a ford tech would do.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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you can't screw with a vehicles vin number, that is illegal and there is no scan tool that can do that (vin number is a read only scanner function). If you mean the software, yes you can. You can buy a $50 actron scan tool that can reset the computer, you can also do the same by unplugging the battery. as far as flashing the prom back to orginal, you would either need a factory scanner or a programmer that stores the original. A scan tool is not as sophisticated as you guys think.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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no i know that but thats what im saying it wipes the mem of all codes stored by the engine whether it is DTC codes or just low oil pressure i cleans them then you have to put the vehicles vin number back into the trucks computer. your not changing or modifing the vin just tell the computer what its hooked up to
 
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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I think I know what you mean, and if I'm right you have it backwards. Some scan tools you have to enter some digits of the vin number in order to hook up to certain vehicles. If thats not what your talking about than your friend has some odd ball doo dad.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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hey pintopower where did you go to school? i start sept 28 at Wyotechs Blairsville Campus in Pa. im goin for diesel tech with light duty and then staying to take High performance powertrains
 
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