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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Lightbulb HID kit

i put an 8k hid kit on my 04 f250 with hi lows. im not completly satisfied. it is a little brighter but i was wanting something to shoot further down the road not just make the same area brighter. will a 10k unit fix this. my system is a 35watt system would goin to a 50watt fix it.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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The 8k vs 10k is just the color temperature of the light, not the amount of light output. Changing from 8k to 10k will just change the color of the light from a blueish purple to more of a darker purple color. Total light output is measured in “lumens”, you want a light that gives more lumens so stepping up from 35 watts to 55 watts would probably do that. But really it sounds like you want a better focus of the light you have, to do that you probably should look into those aftermarket “projector” style headlights. I don’t have any experience with the directly but it seem like they would focus the light better then the Ford OEM headlights. HTH
 
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Are you sure you have a HID kit and not the HID wannabe lights? Only reason I say is because HIDs will blind you compared to stock.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by silly34
Are you sure you have a HID kit and not the HID wannabe lights? Only reason I say is because HIDs will blind you compared to stock.
i would hope so i paid enough for them. if i paid 150 for the light kit and got knock offs im gonna be pissed. but the company that i got them from claims them as a hid kit. they have a little control box that mounts under the hood and they had adapters to plug into the original wiring harness so there was no splicing. they are brighter but they arent as bright as i want i want them to shoot about another 20yards down the road on low beems and the highs are ok i can see for about 1/5 mile maybe 3/10 mile fairly well
 
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaner21
The 8k vs 10k is just the color temperature of the light, not the amount of light output. Changing from 8k to 10k will just change the color of the light from a blueish purple to more of a darker purple color. Total light output is measured in “lumens”, you want a light that gives more lumens so stepping up from 35 watts to 55 watts would probably do that. But really it sounds like you want a better focus of the light you have, to do that you probably should look into those aftermarket “projector” style headlights. I don’t have any experience with the directly but it seem like they would focus the light better then the Ford OEM headlights. HTH

Agree... maybe you should go back stock, upgrade the wiring harness, get a brightbox setup and some silverstarts or PIAA's. And do the fog light mod.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Ok you should have ballasts for each bulb and they would plug into your system.. I have a kit on my wifes car and when on they are crazy bright but I think they are 55watt 5500K the more 4800k and 5500k seem to work really well and are not super blue..very white. But not all kits are created equally
 
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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the ones i have are a very clean light. thats one thing i do like about them they light up the area better but i feel as they only cover the same area just light it better. i dont see well at night and would like to see further as i dont pay a whole lot of attention while driving (i day dream and get lost in deep thought) and the sooner i see something the better. i had the piaa's in my expedition and will never waste my money on those again they werent much better than stock period. thats y i went this route cause everyone said its so much greater than those. and they are better they just dont seem to shine further. the fact that they light up the sides of the road better is nice as i live around lots of deer.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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You have too high a color temp bulb. You want 6000K or less. Higher than that is too blue and will not illuminate as well.

Try for a 4600K or 5000K bulb set which is close to daylight.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by silly34
Agree... maybe you should go back stock, upgrade the wiring harness, get a brightbox setup and some silverstarts or PIAA's. And do the fog light mod.
Fog light mod?
 
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Are you using the oem headlight housings? HID conversion will make the light brighter, but the reflector in the housing isn't the most sophisticated. There are several other threads on HID conversions, one in particular that mentioned kits that change out the whole housing with projector lenses.

From an efficiency stand point, if they're well designed... they should put more light where you want it - giving you a longer narrower beam. This is also considered the polite way to convert to HID, since you won't inadvertently blind drivers that are coming the other direction. To some extent, I suppose you could consider it a safety issue.

Here are a couple setups that include the projector housing:

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Here is a link to the original thread:

Thanks to Furian for doing most of the leg work.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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My Apolgoies - 03/04

I just realized you mentioned having 03/04 lights...

here ya go:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-07...Q5fAccessories








http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-07...Q5fAccessories








http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-0...Q5fAccessories



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Forgive my posting links to Ebay, but it made it easy to point out the types avail, as well as pricing, etc. If you can find them on Ebay, you might also find them elsewhere.

Again, thanks to Reax

Original Thread:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ty-pickup.html
 
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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Here is a great custom look

At the risk of hijacking the thread :-)

Here is a link to another thread on the subject.

Racerx7775 did a nice job fitting his rover projectors into HD housings. Looks angry - probably my favorite yet.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...ml#post7773404
 
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by juneau76
Fog light mod?
Yeah fix up the fog lights where they stay on with high beams... I think you can actually put larger bulbs (headlight) in them but no personal experience. I think the brightbox actually does this mod as well.

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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by silly34
Yeah fix up the fog lights where they stay on with high beams... I think you can actually put larger bulbs (headlight) in them but no personal experience. I think the brightbox actually does this mod as well.

B.
Ok, I get it. Yes, you can get a Britebox that does that for you. Thanks for the clarification.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by beaud82
...but i feel as they only cover the same area just light it better. i dont see well at night and would like to see further as i dont pay a whole lot of attention while driving...
Are you talking about just low beams or high beams? It sounds like they are doing what they are suppose to, unless your changing the reflector out you should see a drastically different coverage, just brighter light. Low beams are meant to cut off so they dont shine in oncoming traffic. If thats what your trying to do you probably should reconsider. As far as high beams, unless the high color temperature is effecting your visibility I cant imagine it wouldnt be bright enough, unless it is improperly aimed. Note that the beam pattern could be messed up by using a HID bulb in a standard setup, I didnt catch if you just used an HID drop in kit or actually replaced the entire housing with an HID setup.
 
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