FE Oil capacity...
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FE Oil capacity...
Recently theres been a few posts talking about how much our trucks hold with FE engines...this pertains to 65-6 only btw...
If you read the owners manual...
1966 version, pg 59, top center block with all of the engines oil capacities..ALL engines EXCEPT the 240 6 in 2WD trucks and 170 6 cyl. engines use 5 quarts.....at the top of the lil box its noted as 'Approxamate Capacity*'
Below the box with all of the capacities is the answer to the lil teeny tiny asterick which isnt the easiest to see if you are blazing thru the reading...or simply looking for you CID and capacity...
it says ' * Add 1 quart with filter change'
5 plus 1 is...well...I for one had a lil mud in my face as I too thought it was a 5 quart total cap. engine vs 6 I discovered in a little light reading...
- cs65
If you read the owners manual...
1966 version, pg 59, top center block with all of the engines oil capacities..ALL engines EXCEPT the 240 6 in 2WD trucks and 170 6 cyl. engines use 5 quarts.....at the top of the lil box its noted as 'Approxamate Capacity*'
Below the box with all of the capacities is the answer to the lil teeny tiny asterick which isnt the easiest to see if you are blazing thru the reading...or simply looking for you CID and capacity...
it says ' * Add 1 quart with filter change'
5 plus 1 is...well...I for one had a lil mud in my face as I too thought it was a 5 quart total cap. engine vs 6 I discovered in a little light reading...
- cs65
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Yeah ;its easy for me the be distracted by the flashing number 5 and not see the *"if you change the filter its another quart".
Engine's can handle a quart low or a quart over full capacity; its the trans where you need to be more precise.
Engine's can handle a quart low or a quart over full capacity; its the trans where you need to be more precise.
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I work in a quick lube facility, and at times have found that even the book can be wrong. We go by experience, since we're not one of those big chains with kids fresh out of high school working under the hood and computers telling us all the details. There have been several times when the customer will jump out of their rig and tell us how much oil the engine holds... as if their car is so special that we don't see a dozen of them a day. We have four different books that list capacities and recommended oil types and viscosities, for some vehicles every book shows something different.
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inxquve, I would be interested in what your books call for the 240 I6 and 352 V8 since they were two engines offered for 65-66.
I change my own oil and have for most of my life, from what I can gather, all the service centers in my area all use 5 & filter.
As noted in another post, 5 with filter hits the full mark on the dip stick in my truck.
John
I change my own oil and have for most of my life, from what I can gather, all the service centers in my area all use 5 & filter.
As noted in another post, 5 with filter hits the full mark on the dip stick in my truck.
John
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inxquve, I would be interested in what your books call for the 240 I6 and 352 V8 since they were two engines offered for 65-66.
I change my own oil and have for most of my life, from what I can gather, all the service centers in my area all use 5 & filter.
As noted in another post, 5 with filter hits the full mark on the dip stick in my truck.
John
I change my own oil and have for most of my life, from what I can gather, all the service centers in my area all use 5 & filter.
As noted in another post, 5 with filter hits the full mark on the dip stick in my truck.
John
Just changed my oil in my 240 I6, it took 5 quarts and is setting on full. I was wondering what most people run for viscosity in these I6 engines?
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Recently theres been a few posts talking about how much our trucks hold with FE engines...this pertains to 65-6 only btw...
If you read the owners manual...
1966 version, pg 59, top center block with all of the engines oil capacities.
ALL engines EXCEPT the 240 6 in 2WD trucks and 170 6 cyl. engines use 5 quarts.
at the top of the lil box it's noted as Approximate Capacity *
Below the box with all of the capacities is the answer to the lil teeny tiny asterick which isnt the easiest to see if you are blazing thru the reading...or simply looking for you CID and capacity...
it says * Add 1 quart with filter change.
5 plus 1 is...well...I for one had a lil mud in my face as I too thought it was a 5 quart total cap. engine vs 6 I discovered in a little light reading...
- cs65
If you read the owners manual...
1966 version, pg 59, top center block with all of the engines oil capacities.
ALL engines EXCEPT the 240 6 in 2WD trucks and 170 6 cyl. engines use 5 quarts.
at the top of the lil box it's noted as Approximate Capacity *
Below the box with all of the capacities is the answer to the lil teeny tiny asterick which isnt the easiest to see if you are blazing thru the reading...or simply looking for you CID and capacity...
it says * Add 1 quart with filter change.
5 plus 1 is...well...I for one had a lil mud in my face as I too thought it was a 5 quart total cap. engine vs 6 I discovered in a little light reading...
- cs65
Note the asterisk that follows Approximate Capacity*
It refers to this: * Add ONE QUART WITH FILTER CHANGE.
Most F100/350's from 1954 thru 1996 took SIX quarts of oil with a filter change (1983 and later F250/350 diesel engines excepted).
Passenger Cars with I-6 & V8 engines from this same time frame took FOUR quarts of oil, FIVE if the filter was changed.
So...if in doubt:
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Bill, I have about one and a half million miles on vehicles under my care, several over 100,000 miles, 1 over 200,000. I don't need some parts counter jock telling me that I don't know how to maintain engines just because of some stupid book.
Screw the manual and the horse that it rode up on.
John
Screw the manual and the horse that it rode up on.
John
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Bill, I have about one and a half million miles on vehicles under my care, several over 100,000 miles, 1 over 200,000. I don't need some parts counter jock telling me that I don't know how to maintain engines just because of some stupid book.
Screw the manual and the horse that it rode up on. John
Screw the manual and the horse that it rode up on. John
Are you too dense to understand Ford Motor Company printed that manual? It came in every new 1966 Truck.
Are you too dense to understand that Ford Motor Company said that excepting 240 I-6 2WD's, 240 I-6 4WD's and the other engines in F100/350's used SIX QUARTS with a filter change?
Do you have your trucks operators manual?
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hey John....once upon a time when you were learning this stuff...where did you get the info about how much oil your car/truck holds ??? where did you learn what oil filter your car/truck takes....cooling system capacity..on and on....oh wait...
thats ALL in a STUPID BOOK...as you call it...
heres some other info for ya...from a favorite book of mine...
heres some oil pan info of cars vs trucks for ya...
65-6 352 2WD F100/250 trucks use a C5TZ6675E
65-6 352 4WD F100/250, F350 Use a C5TZ6675F
65-6 352 Full size Fords use a C7AZ6675A
the books btw this info is from is Ford Master Truck Parts catalog and Ford Master Car Parts catalog respectively...Truck catalog print date is Jan. 1975 and Car catalog print date is May, 1975.
How do I learn this stuff...cause I READ the books.
- cs65
thats ALL in a STUPID BOOK...as you call it...
heres some other info for ya...from a favorite book of mine...
heres some oil pan info of cars vs trucks for ya...
65-6 352 2WD F100/250 trucks use a C5TZ6675E
65-6 352 4WD F100/250, F350 Use a C5TZ6675F
65-6 352 Full size Fords use a C7AZ6675A
the books btw this info is from is Ford Master Truck Parts catalog and Ford Master Car Parts catalog respectively...Truck catalog print date is Jan. 1975 and Car catalog print date is May, 1975.
How do I learn this stuff...cause I READ the books.
- cs65
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I don't mean to interrupt this lively discussion between you and the boys, but I don't understand just how a '65 or '66 Ford would get a '67 (C7-) oil pan?
I guess if the original part # was superseded to the '67 part number then that would make sense.......
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The 65 and 66 manuals differ in their recomendations..65 says 10W-30 for all temps 10 degrees F below and above, other options are:
10-10W for temps for below 10 degrees to 20 degrees above zero
20-20W for 20 degrees above zero to 90 degrees above zero
SAE 30W for temps above 90 degrees
If you are in an area where its really cold most days...below -10 degrees F it says 5W-20 or straight 5W
FWIW...it also says to avoid speeds above 65 when using 5W oil...
The 66 manual says as follows:
below 0 degrees F..5W-10W-20 for multi viscosity. single viscosity: SAE 10W
minus 10 degrees F to32 degrees F: SAE 10W-20W-30 for multiviscosity, SAE 20 for single viscosity.
32 degrees F to 100 degrees F: SAE 20W-40 for multiviscosity. single viscosity: SAE 30.
above 100 degrees F: SAE 40 Only
the 65 manual has this info on pg. 9
the 66 manual has this info on pg. 8
This info pertains to ALL gasoline engines.
- cs65
10-10W for temps for below 10 degrees to 20 degrees above zero
20-20W for 20 degrees above zero to 90 degrees above zero
SAE 30W for temps above 90 degrees
If you are in an area where its really cold most days...below -10 degrees F it says 5W-20 or straight 5W
FWIW...it also says to avoid speeds above 65 when using 5W oil...
The 66 manual says as follows:
below 0 degrees F..5W-10W-20 for multi viscosity. single viscosity: SAE 10W
minus 10 degrees F to32 degrees F: SAE 10W-20W-30 for multiviscosity, SAE 20 for single viscosity.
32 degrees F to 100 degrees F: SAE 20W-40 for multiviscosity. single viscosity: SAE 30.
above 100 degrees F: SAE 40 Only
the 65 manual has this info on pg. 9
the 66 manual has this info on pg. 8
This info pertains to ALL gasoline engines.
- cs65
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Barnie...you are correct about the part number supercession...and for those without books...the A in the part number stands for automobile and the T is for truck...just so theres no misunderstanding...
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The 65 and 66 manuals differ in their recomendations..65 says 10W-30 for all temps 10 degrees F below and above, other options are:
10-10W for temps for below 10 degrees to 20 degrees above zero
20-20W for 20 degrees above zero to 90 degrees above zero
SAE 30W for temps above 90 degrees
If you are in an area where its really cold most days...below -10 degrees F it says 5W-20 or straight 5W
FWIW...it also says to avoid speeds above 65 when using 5W oil...
The 66 manual says as follows:
below 0 degrees F..5W-10W-20 for multi viscosity. single viscosity: SAE 10W
minus 10 degrees F to32 degrees F: SAE 10W-20W-30 for multiviscosity, SAE 20 for single viscosity.
32 degrees F to 100 degrees F: SAE 20W-40 for multiviscosity. single viscosity: SAE 30.
above 100 degrees F: SAE 40 Only
the 65 manual has this info on pg. 9
the 66 manual has this info on pg. 8
This info pertains to ALL gasoline engines.
- cs65
10-10W for temps for below 10 degrees to 20 degrees above zero
20-20W for 20 degrees above zero to 90 degrees above zero
SAE 30W for temps above 90 degrees
If you are in an area where its really cold most days...below -10 degrees F it says 5W-20 or straight 5W
FWIW...it also says to avoid speeds above 65 when using 5W oil...
The 66 manual says as follows:
below 0 degrees F..5W-10W-20 for multi viscosity. single viscosity: SAE 10W
minus 10 degrees F to32 degrees F: SAE 10W-20W-30 for multiviscosity, SAE 20 for single viscosity.
32 degrees F to 100 degrees F: SAE 20W-40 for multiviscosity. single viscosity: SAE 30.
above 100 degrees F: SAE 40 Only
the 65 manual has this info on pg. 9
the 66 manual has this info on pg. 8
This info pertains to ALL gasoline engines.
- cs65
Thanks for the info. I was wondering because I decided to run SAE 30 in my truck. I was running 10W30 before with some Marvel Mystery Oil and there was a little clattering in the top end. I ran that oil for about 2 months and when I changed it, that was some of the blackest oil I have ever seen. No chunks but I think the Marvel Mystery Oil did the trick in cleaning everything out. Now with the strait SAE 30 the clicking has decreased dramatically. After the long drive yesterday the truck Idled smoother than it has ever and it just sounded really good. The truck has a glaspack (Cherry Bomb) for the old timers about half way back and the exhaust ends at the end of the Glass Pac. My Sons like the sound of the truck when I am downshifting because it pops but I think I am going to go get the exhaust ran out the back. Can anyone tell me how the original exhaust ran? Did it go strait out the back or did it curve out the side?
JRB65