1.1 L Ford Industrial Engine
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Need help with my Jacobsen mower with the 1.1 L
Say it sounds like I have the same engine. Where did you buy your piston rings, bearings, etc.?
Im working on a Jacobsen lawn mower with a ford industrial engine. Its a 4 cylinder 1.1 L carburated engine from the late 70s to early 80s. Its from a family of engines called Kent engines. A 1.6 L edition was used in the Fiesta. The only difference is the crank throw. I found parts for it by looking it up under fiesta. I put new rod and main bearings, piston rings, and had head redone. It runs great except for a couple of problems. When you ease into the hydro feed peddle, the rps decrease and when the governor tries to rev it up, it bogs down and stalls. When I try to increase the throttle too suddenly, it stalls. Im getting a timing light tomorrow an hook it up. Any idea what the base timing is? Im guessing the vacuum advance is whacked. Its been sitting for 7 years in a shop in peices because nobody could find parts. Not even jacobsen. It also overheats but I think the thermostat is stuck so tomorrow im gonna knock the guts out of it and put it back in to still slow the flow down enough to absorb the heat. Also, the governor is run off the crank pulley on the front and is mechanical. It looks like it has a place to put oil in it, im wondering if it needs some or even how to fill it properly. If anybody knows these engines, I would appreciate some input.
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Yeah, I not only was as I mentioned a really late addition to the thread, I realized a few hours after I posted it, not going to help anyone who might be searching the same issue. That was my original intention, to help someone who got to the end of the thread and would be frustrated that there was not a definitive solution.
We had similar problems with a Owatona Mustang 345 skid steer with the 1.1L Ford Industrial engine. Similar but not the same and not going to be relevant if someone else dug up this thread.
With Google being everyone's go-to for problems this thread comes up when searching certain issues with the difficulty of finding info on older Ford Industrials as it did for me about a year ago, it didn't help me. So when I was searching something else for using Ford Pinto parts for an industrial Ford engine, up popped this thread again. I thought hey I should add my information to this! But no.. I shouldn't have.
We had similar problems with a Owatona Mustang 345 skid steer with the 1.1L Ford Industrial engine. Similar but not the same and not going to be relevant if someone else dug up this thread.
With Google being everyone's go-to for problems this thread comes up when searching certain issues with the difficulty of finding info on older Ford Industrials as it did for me about a year ago, it didn't help me. So when I was searching something else for using Ford Pinto parts for an industrial Ford engine, up popped this thread again. I thought hey I should add my information to this! But no.. I shouldn't have.
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Wondering if a get a 1.6L Festiva engine that is rebuild and change the flywheel with mine, will it work for my skidsteer.
Can't find rebuild parts for the 1.1L industrial engine but found a local 1.6L 1980 rebuild engine.
Sure hope you can help?
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Originally Posted by skidster345
No, the 1977-80 festiva has a 1.6L engine.
1.6L (98 cid) OHV I-4: 1971/73 Pinto/Bobcat/Capri (RWD), 1978/80 Fiesta (FWD). Some of the Pinto/Bobcat/Capri parts interchange with the Fiesta, some (like the flywheel) do not interchange.
Both the Capri (1971/77) and Fiesta were imported from Germany. There was no 1978 Capri, 1979/86 Capri was a rebadged Mustang.
Fiesta didn't sell worth a hoot as no A/T or factory A/C was available. Ford dealer installed A/C was so wimpy, it couldn't blow out a match!
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No such thing as a Festiva until 1986. It was designed by Mazda in Japan, assembled and imported from South Korea, came w/a 1.3L Mazda I-4.
1.6L (98 cid) OHV I-4: 1971/73 Pinto/Bobcat/Capri (RWD), 1978/80 Fiesta (FWD). Some of the Pinto/Bobcat/Capri parts interchange with the Fiesta, some (like the flywheel) do not interchange.
Both the Capri (1971/77) and Fiesta were imported from Germany. There was no 1978 Capri, 1979/86 Capri was a rebadged Mustang.
Fiesta didn't sell worth a hoot as no A/T or factory A/C was available. Ford dealer installed A/C was so wimpy, it couldn't blow out a match!
1.6L (98 cid) OHV I-4: 1971/73 Pinto/Bobcat/Capri (RWD), 1978/80 Fiesta (FWD). Some of the Pinto/Bobcat/Capri parts interchange with the Fiesta, some (like the flywheel) do not interchange.
Both the Capri (1971/77) and Fiesta were imported from Germany. There was no 1978 Capri, 1979/86 Capri was a rebadged Mustang.
Fiesta didn't sell worth a hoot as no A/T or factory A/C was available. Ford dealer installed A/C was so wimpy, it couldn't blow out a match!
Can't find oversize pistons for the Fiesta (.40 over).
Found four .30 over pistons and rings and will see if they will work.
Hard to find parts for this engine.
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Fiesta time
Skidsteer, in your earlier post you said you found a "rebuild" engine. I thought you perhaps meant "rebuilt". But if you are looking for oversize pistons does this mean you just found a Fiest 1.6 engine that you want to rebuild?
If so, .030" overbore pistons should be fine, why do you want .040" over?
If so, .030" overbore pistons should be fine, why do you want .040" over?
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The 1.6L I found turned out to be a 1983 1.6L which is a different block.
Back to rebuilding my 1.1L engine.
Trying to find oversize pistons is very frustrating. They stopped manufacturing them, but found three on e bay and one at a local parts store. Hope they work..... I'll let you know.
Back to rebuilding my 1.1L engine.
Trying to find oversize pistons is very frustrating. They stopped manufacturing them, but found three on e bay and one at a local parts store. Hope they work..... I'll let you know.
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If you have $2k burning a hole in your pocket, check here:
http://chicagoengines.com/industrial/
Maybe they could sell you some parts? Couldn't hurt to ask.
Or go here as they list a LOT of FoMoCo Industrial engine parts:
{I clicked on piston assembly to get this page}
http://www.adoraequipment.com/spare-...ston-Assembly/
Maybe start here:
http://www.adoraequipment.com/Spare-Parts-Catalog.php
Complete long blocks and some parts from here:
http://www.grahampowerusa.com/parts.php
Call for availability (800) 837-7070
tom
http://chicagoengines.com/industrial/
Maybe they could sell you some parts? Couldn't hurt to ask.
Or go here as they list a LOT of FoMoCo Industrial engine parts:
{I clicked on piston assembly to get this page}
http://www.adoraequipment.com/spare-...ston-Assembly/
Maybe start here:
http://www.adoraequipment.com/Spare-Parts-Catalog.php
Complete long blocks and some parts from here:
http://www.grahampowerusa.com/parts.php
Call for availability (800) 837-7070
tom
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