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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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Couldn't read codes

1988 F250

I went to the local auto parts store and they let me use their code reader which had two connectors - the larger plug and the smaller STI plug. I plugged both in and followed the directions and got no results - an error message saying that it couldn't read the data.

Anyway - should I have grounded the STI plug as if I was going to read the codes from the check engine light?

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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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If you went to advance auto or autozone, they've only got code readers for ODB-2 computers and yours is a ODB-1. That's why your getting error messages.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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Ground the STI wire and turn the key to run, if you don't get any flashes on the check engine light then either the light is burned out or computer is toast.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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is everything stock? i know i cant get the codes pulled in my truck because the engine and trans were both changed. and i think the computer too....
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Doesn't matter what computer you have or what vehicle it's in all EEC-4 computers work the same with regards to pulling codes, so as long at the wires for the test connector are actually attached to the computer you can get codes.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
Doesn't matter what computer you have or what vehicle it's in all EEC-4 computers work the same with regards to pulling codes, so as long at the wires for the test connector are actually attached to the computer you can get codes.
then the local mechanic is a dumba$$. someones gettin b!tched at tomorrow.

 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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Everything is stock as far as I know.

Frankyford
It wasn't autozone or advance auto. But the test connector fit exactly and I didn't pay attention to whether is was OBD 1 or OBD2.

Paul O,
Let me make sure I understand you. If I ground the STI wire and turn the key to run, the check engine light will blink. If the light doesn't blink the computer (the whole EEC) is toast. Is it possible for the truck to run if the computer is toast?

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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 05:25 AM
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I just asked that same question the other day on this forum and everyone told me absolutely no, it will not run without the computer. I've got a 95 F-150 302 auto and I've got the ODB-1 in mine. When I went to autozone to have my codes read they told me they couldn't read them because they had the reader for the ODB-2. Yours should have the ODB-1 in it.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by frankyford
I just asked that same question the other day on this forum and everyone told me absolutely no, it will not run without the computer.
Well that's not really the same question. You're asking if the motor would run with the computer removed from the vehicle, and the answer is definitely no. This issue is possibly more of a computer fault.. could be anything from a burnt trace to a blown component inside the box, and the computer may still run the motor more or less but this isn't something that can be fixed so the whole EEC module has to be replaced.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rogersdan
If I ground the STI wire and turn the key to run, the check engine light will blink. If the light doesn't blink the computer (the whole EEC) is toast.
Starting the motor as you would any day.. when the key to turned to run all the dash lights come on and that should include the check engine light for a second, if this doesn't come on check that the bulb isn't blown first. I you can determine that the bulb is good but the light doesn't come on at first start then it's almost certain the EEC computer has a fault. If the light does come on for a second but you can't get it to display codes by groundig the STI wire, then trace the STI wire back to the EEC connector to ensure it's good. You'll have to disconnect the harness from the computer to do this so look for corrosion on the pins or a pin that is pushed back as well as broken/cut wires. fordfuelinjection has diagrams of the EEC connector.
 
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