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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 02:43 AM
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Need desperate help - new trans

I just had a BD perf trans installed and it already is going on me. The tow/haul light was flashing and I stopped to check the code. It read P0015 - Camshaft position actuator B - Bank 1 Timing over-retarded. What is that? The truck seemed to start working really hard to drive at hiway speeds and the trans smelled very hot, although the gauge did not say so.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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If I were you, I'd stop driving the truck immediately. Contact the installer and/or parts provider to determine the issue(s) before you damage the transmission.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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weird that a engine code would make the OD lite flash...

but i think stop driving the truck is good advise till u get it looked at for sure...

how long since u had the tranny work done ?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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About 4 hours before that. Never got 70 km on it and its toast. It smelled really hot even though that useless tranny temp gauge on my dash never moved outta its normal spot, and it was slipping and jumping in and out of gear. I found out that the installing shop only put 12 litres of oil in (bill says one case of mercon sp) And it can handle probably at least 2 cases with the deep pan. Someone is paying for a new unit and d**m well better not be me.

So that code mean engine trouble or is it related to the tranny trouble?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Camshaft position actuator and Bank 1 being over-retarded would have nothing to do with the transmission. Some strange coincidence? Judging by the Tow/Haul light flashing and the 'jumping in/out of gear' it sounds to me like your torque converter is slipping in and out of lockup. It could be as simple as a bad TC ground, but in any case I would tow that truck right back to the tranny shop and describe what happened to them and ask them to fix it properly or refund you your money.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 02:08 AM
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Well the code I have no idea. Must be coincidence, but the trannyis definately done. I looked at the bill and it only shows 12 litres of oil. 12 litres of oil in a transmission where factory it can hold 18-23 litres, and this has the deep pan. half the oil capacity = tranny get hot, burns, smells, burns fluid and probably would jump in n outta gear. They will definately be hearing from me monday
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Wow, that's a real waste of the quality rebuilt transmission... that's going to be a hard lesson for your installer. I hope you get things resolved quickly!
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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Keep us posted......
 
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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well its monday what happened?????
 
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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Well I'm still waiting. So far I know that they claim there was 21 litres in it, the fluid was not burnt and there were no heat issues. And they will let me know more when they find more. Tired of waiting.

So besides the shift relearn procedure, is this a straight bolt in and fill with oil tranny job or are there any tricks or different from the standard procedures to this?
 
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Ok, so, as of the end of thursday I know that they just ordered a new trans for me as their inspections found nothing. So thats good. And they even asked my dad (I sent him there to find out info, I was busy) If I was pulling trailer or what I was doing as there were about 300 km on it when they got it back. So what? Its a diesel with a performance tranny, its supposed to pull trailers!!! Right??? They are looking for something to grab to sorta get them off the hook I think.

Anyway, I am a bit nervous that the next one will fail too, even though I think I just was the recipient of a defective 1 outta 100. Enduro 4231, in regards to a previous post above (#5) TC ground? Where would I locate that as maybe it has something to do with the install not being completed? I just want to make sure that my truck cant ruin a tranny like that, and that it has to be a bad tc or tranny to cause these problems. I hear that the install is very straight forward, nuts, bolts, oil, electric plugs and drive it.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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Is there a break-in period for a new or rebuilt transmission? Like you, I would assume that you can drive the vehicle normally even if that included towing / hauling...
 
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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I called a different local tranny shop and they say that any automatic tranny, if properly assembled and with quality parts, should be just a bolt in and use as normal with no break-in job.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Powerstrokin_350
I called a different local tranny shop and they say that any automatic tranny, if properly assembled and with quality parts, should be just a bolt in and use as normal with no break-in job.
That's what I thought too. I believe that the installer will make every effort to ensure the next transmission is installed properly. It must be a fluke that the current transmission failed. BD Performance has a great reputation and I'm sure that they will be inspecting that transmission closely to prevent a similar failure in the future. Keep us updated in the progress...
 
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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Ok, so, as of the end of thursday I know that they just ordered a new trans for me as their inspections found nothing. So thats good. And they even asked my dad (I sent him there to find out info, I was busy) If I was pulling trailer or what I was doing as there were about 300 km on it when they got it back. So what? Its a diesel with a performance tranny, its supposed to pull trailers!!! Right??? They are looking for something to grab to sorta get them off the hook I think.

Anyway, I am a bit nervous that the next one will fail too, even though I think I just was the recipient of a defective 1 outta 100. Enduro 4231, in regards to a previous post above (#5) TC ground? Where would I locate that as maybe it has something to do with the install not being completed? I just want to make sure that my truck cant ruin a tranny like that, and that it has to be a bad tc or tranny to cause these problems. I hear that the install is very straight forward, nuts, bolts, oil, electric plugs and drive it.
I believe that the ground for the TC is either right on the inside of the driver's side fenderwell near the large gray transmission plug, or is routed into the chassis ground somewhere. If the TC isn't grounded, it won't lockup at all; when a TC locks up, it is simply completing a circuit and grounding in order to initiate lockup. If there was a bad ground however, it may jump in and out of lockup. A faulty TC will also slip in and out of lockup.
 
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