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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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A queston about Lockers

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Lately after getting my engine and transmission tuned right to where I like it (both motor and trans rebuilt) my new delima has to be now my rear end. I have alot more power now with my new 390 but I don't like seeing one wheel burnouts when I do them. (very rarely) Im trying to limit my budget since the motor mostly has taken a good chunk out of this restoration fund. So Im wondering to get a "trac-loc" rearend is a locker the best way to go for the price? I have read the negatives about lockers but Im hoping this truck will stay on dry pavement all the time. And if lockers are the way to go what is a recommended company to go and buy one from. A couple of lockers I have looked at are pretty comparable to price like the aussie lockers and powertrax lockers. I like the powertrax a little better from what I have read because they are made in the usa. Any way any imput is greatly appreicated.


P.S. The truck has a 9 inch in the rear I don't know however the gear ratio or the spline count.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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If the rear end is Stock OEM, its a 29 spline unit. If your using it for every day driver, then aLimited Slip is more of what you need, Not a Full Locker. This of couse is not always true, Myself use my truck daily and doa lot of towing and Boat tows, pulling up a wet ramp, a full lock rear end is great, But Sharp turns I cring every time.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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I second the limited slip. They have better on road manners.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Madathlon
If the rear end is Stock OEM, its a 29 spline unit. If your using it for every day driver, then aLimited Slip is more of what you need, Not a Full Locker. This of couse is not always true, Myself use my truck daily and doa lot of towing and Boat tows, pulling up a wet ramp, a full lock rear end is great, But Sharp turns I cring every time.
Yes it is stock oem never been touched I can tell because of all the caked on dirt/road grime all over the pumpkin. This truck is taken out every so often not too daily but if what you say is correct maybe I will be happier with limited slip as I did have a concern about how lockers handled on the roadway even though powertrax claims theirs has seamless operation on the roads. Okay so if we go with the limmited slip option, whats the lowest price I can expect to pay? Keep in mind I'd like to keep the rearend under 1 grand if I can since I will be doing most of the labor myself anyways.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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http://www.drivetrainspecialists.com...duct-1549.html

Here a good one, and the price not to bad
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 10:51 PM
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I have had a 68 and a 70 apart. The 70 was a long bed 6cyl and it had 31 spline the 68 was a short bed with a 390 and it was a 28 spline. I have no idea which ones got 31 and which got 28 I would pull an axle and verify the spline count before you buy anything.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by johnboy427
I have had a 68 and a 70 apart. The 70 was a long bed 6cyl and it had 31 spline the 68 was a short bed with a 390 and it was a 28 spline. I have no idea which ones got 31 and which got 28 I would pull an axle and verify the spline count before you buy anything.
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I think im gonna be lazy and ask this question. If I can find the id tag on the pumpkin would that tell me my spline count or do I have to physically pull an axle like you say. The reason I ask is im kind of hesitant to touch the parts on my rearend since Im really a new guy in terms of axle talk/working on rearends. But Im hoping to in the following months really gain experience when I take this rearend out and apart.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Seems like there was a post some time back that told how to ID spline count by the end of the axle. Some have 2 does, some have an hourglass shaped design. Can't remeber which was which though.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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That myth was debunked recently in this thread. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...0-9-axles.html
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 12:42 AM
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Just FYI, the "trac-loc" is not a "Locker" it is a LS unit. This two pinion design os not known for its strength.
Just because the term Loc is used, does not make it a locking differential.
Understand the differences or you may either be let down or surprised.

If you plan on running a locker on the street (I do, a Detroit) know some of the characteristics of the real locker and determine whether or not this is really what you want.
A quaity LS unit can have wonderful driving manners and have enough tension to apply power to both axles.

As long as your upgrading the carrier, it might be a nice time to upgrade axles too. 28 Splines are taperd and mght struggle with the added traction of a locker.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 75F350
Just FYI, the "trac-loc" is not a "Locker" it is a LS unit. This two pinion design os not known for its strength.
Just because the term Loc is used, does not make it a locking differential.
Understand the differences or you may either be let down or surprised.

If you plan on running a locker on the street (I do, a Detroit) know some of the characteristics of the real locker and determine whether or not this is really what you want.
A quaity LS unit can have wonderful driving manners and have enough tension to apply power to both axles.

As long as your upgrading the carrier, it might be a nice time to upgrade axles too. 28 Splines are taperd and mght struggle with the added traction of a locker.
Thank you for the information. Just a question though if I went with limited slip instead of a locker what are the drawbacks? And would I have to change the axles as well?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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I have been running a trac-loc for about five years now. Even with the friction modifier added it still makes the rear end wag a little in a tight turn under acceleration. It has never caused a problem though. The limited slip version they offer has less chirp from the tires and no wag on the tight turns. My brother in law has one of those in his 1966
F100 and I noticed on launches the right tire spins a foot maybe before the other side kicks in. My trac-loc they both engage at the same time.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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I myself run a welded Diff in a ford 9in. Both tutn fully 1 to 1 at all times, while turns I get chriping, I get a lot more traction to pull up wet boat ramps, and for me, this is the most important reason why I went my way.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Madathlon
I myself run a welded Diff in a ford 9in. Both tutn fully 1 to 1 at all times, while turns I get chriping, I get a lot more traction to pull up wet boat ramps, and for me, this is the most important reason why I went my way.

I bet that is hell to make a turn from a stop in the snow.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Red69
I bet that is hell to make a turn from a stop in the snow.
It maybe, If I lived somewhere, where it snowed.
 
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