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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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EGR Block Off Plate

So I plan on making a block off plate out of 1/8th inch stainless. Anyone have what circumference should I use? Please don't refer me to a sight that sells them (not gonna pay $20-$35 for a piece of stainless I can make for free out of scrap). Lastly what are the torque specs for tightening the up-pipe back to the egr cooler?

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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Unplug the EGR Valve

If you unplug your EGR valve, that will stop exhaust gas flowing into the intake. I thought about making an EGR blank off plate when I had mine apart installing ARP studs. But it was a PITA plus I would risk an exhaust leak at the EGR cooler connection. That in turn would reduce exhaust flow to the turbo and reduce turbo performance.

To be absolutely sure there is no EGR flow, I would pull the EGR valve out, make sure the plunger is shut and spot weld the valve bottom. That will ensure the EGR does not open under high exhaust pressure.

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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DSMMH
If you unplug your EGR valve, that will stop exhaust gas flowing into the intake. I thought about making an EGR blank off plate when I had mine apart installing ARP studs. But it was a PITA plus I would risk an exhaust leak at the EGR cooler connection. That in turn would reduce exhaust flow to the turbo and reduce turbo performance.

To be absolutely sure there is no EGR flow, I would pull the EGR valve out, make sure the plunger is shut and spot weld the valve bottom. That will ensure the EGR does not open under high exhaust pressure.

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Agreed I just want this to be easily removable if needed.....EGR Valves aren't cheap. I also bought some high temp exhaust joint and seal mud that should plug any exhaust leaks (which i doubt will happen since the connection is currently metal to metal) I'll keep your concerns in mind though
Originally I was going to just cut the 'Y' off the up-pipe and weld both sides shut so no exhaust leak was possible but that requires removing the up-pipe which I hope I dont have to do (I HOPE to just loosen the bolts and slide the plate in then tighten it down).
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DSMMH
If you unplug your EGR valve, that will stop exhaust gas flowing into the intake. I thought about making an EGR blank off plate when I had mine apart installing ARP studs. But it was a PITA plus I would risk an exhaust leak at the EGR cooler connection. That in turn would reduce exhaust flow to the turbo and reduce turbo performance.

To be absolutely sure there is no EGR flow, I would pull the EGR valve out, make sure the plunger is shut and spot weld the valve bottom. That will ensure the EGR does not open under high exhaust pressure.

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Just unplugging the valve OR welding the valve shut doesnt really help. Stops EG from circulating into intake and cylinders etc, but doesnt address teh cooler problems, which IMO is the main EGR prob with the 6.0. Doing a delete is the only way to do it right and not just put a "band-aid" on it. Its like adding fix-a-flat to a tire, might help for a minute but its not a repair. Its a big job in itselft to install the block off plate, why not just got a tad further and bypass the cooler? If your inside brake pad was worn on your truck, would you replace just the one single worn pad? Sure might work, but why?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 06silvercrew
Just unplugging the valve OR welding the valve shut doesnt really help. Stops EG from circulating into intake and cylinders etc, but doesnt address teh cooler problems, which IMO is the main EGR prob with the 6.0. Doing a delete is the only way to do it right and not just put a "band-aid" on it. Its like adding fix-a-flat to a tire, might help for a minute but its not a repair. Its a big job in itselft to install the block off plate, why not just got a tad further and bypass the cooler?
But if you do the EGR block off and coolant filter the chance of having a EGR cooler problem is probably very slim from what i've gathered.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Not sure what a coolant filter has to do with the EGR functioning.

When you say EGR block off, you must mean blocking exhaust at the up-pipe from entering the EGR COOLER???? ............Right?

The coolant filter really does nothing but filter and obviously help trap any particles that can plug your EGR cooler...I am pretty sure that is what you mean...in that aspect you are correct.

Some guys are removing the up-pipe, buying a SS freeze plug and welding it in the up-pipe "Y" to stop exhaust flow. That is a far better idea that just attempting to slip a SS disk in the "Y" and hope it seals. IMO
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by joe blow
Not sure what a coolant filter has to do with the EGR functioning.

When you say EGR block off, you must mean blocking exhaust at the up-pipe from entering the EGR COOLER???? ............Right?
I look at the coolant filter as being proactive for the the oil pump i believe and the egr cooler (not wearing out the inside of the tubing from friction) among other things. I may be wrong but thats the conclusion i made from reading posts here.

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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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back to my original question though does anyone know the circumference? (Had a feeling this post would go in 5 directions )
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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OK...yes then you are very correct. If I knew that my EGR cooler was solid and not leaking I would have done my EGR delete the way I described. In all honesty, the way I described is a solid way of doing the EGR cooler block off. I am pretty sure a well made SS disc as you describe would wrok well also.

I opted for a kit from FCDP.

Sorry to get off track. Kinda tired today
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by joe blow
OK...yes then you are very correct. If I knew that my EGR cooler was solid and not leaking I would have done my EGR delete the way I described. In all honesty, the way I described is a solid way of doing the EGR cooler block off. I am pretty sure a well made SS disc as you describe would wrok well also.

I opted for a kit from FCDP.

Sorry to get off track. Kinda tired today
LOL no worries sometimes forums remind me of those new Microsoft Bing commercials (and i catch myself doing it sometimes too haha)
EGR - well E is for elephant and elephants have big ears....i like elephant ears at the carnival.....one time i got lost at a carnival until a carnee who had small hands and smelt like cabbage with sharp pointy teeth helped me find my parents......etc lol
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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1.5" round stock will work great for the plug.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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When you get the egr pipe off go and get a freeze plug that fits the hole and drive it in. This is better than a block off plate. I agree a delete is probably the best repair but if you was to get smogged and they noticed the egr missing you got problems. They smog Diesels here in Nevada and my truck passed with the egr blocked but the guy did look around under the hood and I'm glad the egr cooler was still there.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Hey Randy

did the smog guy specifically look for the egr cooler?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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i bought the egr delete from liborator diesel about a year ago and it seems to me that they changed/added some parts. when i bought the kit it only came with the pipes not the plate that deletes the egr valve. should i buy or request the plate?? FYI i have a sct wich bypasses the egr so i dont get CEL. and it is plugged in still.???
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavyAssault
1.5" round stock will work great for the plug.
Thank you!
 
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