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From: Clarksburg WV
Interesting...
I mentioned on here awhile back how I killed my GP's (I guess I glowed them too long with the pushbutton or something).
So I ordered some new ZD-9's and worked on it a bit last night, just did the driver's side plugs. I noticed the GP all the way in the back had some kind of rigged up connector on it. I had been under the impression this truck had all the original glow plugs, but when I saw that I just knew it wasn't a motorcraft GP. Pulled it, and sure enough, it was a Champion.
Kinda wondering if that one is one of the culprits that might have been causing my GP controller to not cycle long enough or something....not sure.
So I ordered some new ZD-9's and worked on it a bit last night, just did the driver's side plugs. I noticed the GP all the way in the back had some kind of rigged up connector on it. I had been under the impression this truck had all the original glow plugs, but when I saw that I just knew it wasn't a motorcraft GP. Pulled it, and sure enough, it was a Champion.
Kinda wondering if that one is one of the culprits that might have been causing my GP controller to not cycle long enough or something....not sure.
Methanoholic
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From: Maine (NorCal Native)
Yes, The controller works off resistance, failed GP's, wiring harness, etc... will cause it to not time/cycle properly.
Another case of manual over burn costing dollars!
You are probably very lucky that Champion is failed, Else you might have been pulling a head to get it out, Champion happens to be the worst... IMNSHO!
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
Another case of manual over burn costing dollars!
You are probably very lucky that Champion is failed, Else you might have been pulling a head to get it out, Champion happens to be the worst... IMNSHO!
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
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From: Clarksburg WV
Well it hadn't been starting very well, that was why I "glowed" it too long....guess now that I had lost a couple other plugs and that's WHY it wasn't starting very well, but I don't know.
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From: Sand GAp, KY
That is about the same as mine Dave. I have not yet tried to start it after sitting more than a couple hours without the plugs. Would the stock controller make them glow longer than a five count?
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From: Nutter Fort, WV
Yes it would.
First start of the day would cycle them for close to 8 or 10 seconds.
Mine will fire without glow plugs if I crank on it for a bit, but starters cost to much.
5 seconds of glow, bump the starter and the engine is running is much easier on the starter.
Back before I lower the compression ratio on a summer day with temps in the 80's, I never used the glow plugs after the first start of the day unless the truck had been sitting all day.
Now I use them after sitting for 3 hours or more.
First start of the day would cycle them for close to 8 or 10 seconds.
Mine will fire without glow plugs if I crank on it for a bit, but starters cost to much.
5 seconds of glow, bump the starter and the engine is running is much easier on the starter.
Back before I lower the compression ratio on a summer day with temps in the 80's, I never used the glow plugs after the first start of the day unless the truck had been sitting all day.
Now I use them after sitting for 3 hours or more.
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On hot days I'm down to 10 seconds for the first glow, she lights off almost instantly. Fur subsequent starts I have 0 seconds glow time (my controller is wired in with the high-idle and cold advance temp sensor, above 112F it don't trigger the plugs) and she still fires up instantly.
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From: Sand GAp, KY
Thanks Dave, that is what i thought. I also don't have to hit the plugs unless it has been sitting awhile ( like all day at work) this time of year. I figure the manual way will help with overall costs in the end by making the plugs last longer.
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