CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: PEVELY USA
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
I have a 94 Ford F150 strt 6 4wd with a 5 speed manual trans.
The truck will start, go into any gear without noise or hesitation, but when you let out on the clutch it does nothing. It does not try to move and the engine does not die.
Does this sound like a cluth problem or a tranny problem. It has a hydrolic clutch and the fluid level is good-no leaks.
Any suggestions would be helpfull?
The truck will start, go into any gear without noise or hesitation, but when you let out on the clutch it does nothing. It does not try to move and the engine does not die.
Does this sound like a cluth problem or a tranny problem. It has a hydrolic clutch and the fluid level is good-no leaks.
Any suggestions would be helpfull?
Senior User
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 150
Likes: 0
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
Try shifting into gear with out pushing in on the clutch.
Does it feel "normal" when you go into different gears? (I.E does it feel like it is actualy going into a gear?
If it feels like it is going into gear. Put it in first. get out and see if you can push it(don't forget to take off the parking brake.). If you can..... OUCH... if you can't... OUCH..
Does it feel "normal" when you go into different gears? (I.E does it feel like it is actualy going into a gear?
If it feels like it is going into gear. Put it in first. get out and see if you can push it(don't forget to take off the parking brake.). If you can..... OUCH... if you can't... OUCH..
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: PEVELY USA
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
>It feels "normal" with and without the clutch.>
>
>I am at work so I will have to try the pushing this evening.
But just a hint, what does
"If you can..... OUCH... if you can't... OUCH.. "
Give me the bad and the worse please??????
>
>I am at work so I will have to try the pushing this evening.
But just a hint, what does
"If you can..... OUCH... if you can't... OUCH.. "
Give me the bad and the worse please??????
Elder User
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 601
Likes: 1
From: South Sioux City, NE USA
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
>Sounds like the transfer case is in a neutral position.
Man, do I feel stupid. I made a reply to the thread in the 80-96 forum. I never thought about the xfer case being in neutral.
OK, check the xfer case first, then look at my guess in the other forum.
Roger Lane
Man, do I feel stupid. I made a reply to the thread in the 80-96 forum. I never thought about the xfer case being in neutral.
OK, check the xfer case first, then look at my guess in the other forum.
Roger Lane
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: PEVELY USA
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
Well here it is... I am typing this for my hubby so forgive me if my "lingo" isn't quite right.
The truck can be pushed forward while in first gear. There are no unusual noises when this is done.
The throw out bearing can be manually moved through the inspection hole.
And he said something about being able to move the transfer case out of neutral and into gear manually.
Something tells me this isnt good.
The truck can be pushed forward while in first gear. There are no unusual noises when this is done.
The throw out bearing can be manually moved through the inspection hole.
And he said something about being able to move the transfer case out of neutral and into gear manually.
Something tells me this isnt good.
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: PEVELY USA
Trending Topics
Senior User
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 150
Likes: 0
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
>Well here it is... I am typing this for my hubby so forgive
>me if my "lingo" isn't quite right.
>
>The truck can be pushed forward while in first gear. There
>are no unusual noises when this is done.
>
>The throw out bearing can be manually moved through the
>inspection hole.
>
>And he said something about being able to move the transfer
>case out of neutral and into gear manually.
>
>Something tells me this isnt good.
>
>
So it was in nuetral?
If he puts it in 2hi and the trany in first.. he should not be able to push it.
I take it that the transfer case is an pushbutton type.
MAKE SURE THE TRANSFER CASE IS IN ANYTHING BUT NUETRAL
>me if my "lingo" isn't quite right.
>
>The truck can be pushed forward while in first gear. There
>are no unusual noises when this is done.
>
>The throw out bearing can be manually moved through the
>inspection hole.
>
>And he said something about being able to move the transfer
>case out of neutral and into gear manually.
>
>Something tells me this isnt good.
>
>
So it was in nuetral?
If he puts it in 2hi and the trany in first.. he should not be able to push it.
I take it that the transfer case is an pushbutton type.
MAKE SURE THE TRANSFER CASE IS IN ANYTHING BUT NUETRAL
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)
Michael S. Palmer
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: PEVELY USA
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
First of all thanks for the help your giving me.
I can change a clutch, but not the tranny.
It is not a push button T-fer case, it is manual.
In 2h in first gear, you can push the vehicle.
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: PEVELY USA
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 26-Jun-02 AT 00:54 AM (EST)]I have had several people lead me to believe that it is the slave cylinder which is internally mounted.
You said that I "should not" be able to push the truck in 2H in first gear, but I could. Could the slave cylinder do this.
I can get the part locally in stock, but wanted to check before I go tearing it apart
?
You said that I "should not" be able to push the truck in 2H in first gear, but I could. Could the slave cylinder do this.
I can get the part locally in stock, but wanted to check before I go tearing it apart
?
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
From: Tucson USA
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
Ok, does the driveshaft spin when you let the clutch out while in gear? Slave has nothing to do with this problem. Can you tell me what you were doing before you parked the truck last, also try putting it in 4wd and see if it moves. Is it possible someone stole your driveshaft?
Elder User
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 601
Likes: 1
From: South Sioux City, NE USA
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
To check the slave, look through the inspection hole while someone works the clutch pedal. The TO Bearing should move about 1/2 to 1 inch when the pedal is pushed in.
Besides, if the slave was not working, the clutch would never disengage, making it imposible to put the truck in any gear while the engine was running.
Like someone else asked, what was the last thing you were doing before it stopped working?
Roger Lane
Besides, if the slave was not working, the clutch would never disengage, making it imposible to put the truck in any gear while the engine was running.
Like someone else asked, what was the last thing you were doing before it stopped working?
Roger Lane
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: PEVELY USA
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 26-Jun-02 AT 05:19 PM (EST)]Not Exactly sure.....I bought the truck as is and was told the clutch was out. The guy said that he was driving down the road and the truck died and when he pulled over and restarted it the clutch was gone and he had it towed.
I know the guy, and he is pretty honest????
Yes the drive shaft is still there. There is no movement in 4wheel drive. The drive shaft does not move at all, but the TO bearing does ( I tested it by attaching a rod to the TO Bearing and when I pushed in the clutch it poped it out so there is movement)
Input shaft maybe.
I know the guy, and he is pretty honest????
Yes the drive shaft is still there. There is no movement in 4wheel drive. The drive shaft does not move at all, but the TO bearing does ( I tested it by attaching a rod to the TO Bearing and when I pushed in the clutch it poped it out so there is movement)
Input shaft maybe.
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
From: Tucson USA
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
Is there any funny noises coming from the tranny or t-case? It could be the input shaft in the tranny, it could snap outside the front bearing and make little or no noise, could also be in the t-case, I would say that is the next step, pull both units out and decide which one is not transmitting power.
Postmaster
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,038
Likes: 3
From: South Kitsap County, WA
CLUTCH OR TRANNY?
If the guy said the clutch was going when you bought it and you noticed a considerable mount of slipping when you let out on it, then it probably is the clutch. Try adjusting the clutch per a reference manual for the year range that your truck falls into. Some clutches are self adjusting. Eventually the clutch will get to a point where the pads don't engage the flywheel and your symptoms occur.
How many miles are on the truck/clutch? Things to think about. Some people get bad clutches, or crappy vehicles. Others just end up driving the poor thing in a manner not condusive to manual trannies.
When did the symptoms occur? When you first started it one day? While it was in motion? Was it stopped? Did it act funny when shifting it? Give us some more info and we'll have it fixed. Either way it sounds like the tranny is going to be dropped for a clutch job or a partial rebuild.
-Kerry
How many miles are on the truck/clutch? Things to think about. Some people get bad clutches, or crappy vehicles. Others just end up driving the poor thing in a manner not condusive to manual trannies.
When did the symptoms occur? When you first started it one day? While it was in motion? Was it stopped? Did it act funny when shifting it? Give us some more info and we'll have it fixed. Either way it sounds like the tranny is going to be dropped for a clutch job or a partial rebuild.
-Kerry