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Old May 16, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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Question 02 sensor

my 97 4.2 have p0135 & p0155 errors (heated problem) will that make my truck run like crap and what can i do to fix it
 
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Old May 16, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Are the sensors old?

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Old May 16, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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To add to the previous reply,if the 02 sensors have more than 80 thousand miles on them,they need to be replaced.You should have 4 of them..2 upstream,and 2 downstream....the upstream sensors(on the exhaust manifolds) control the computer,while the downstream ones tell the computer if the converters are doing their job.If you think its the 02 sensors,replace the upstream ones first.
 
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Old May 16, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 07:17 AM
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Unless defective, there is ZERO reason to replace the downstream sensors. They don't "wear out" very quickly and they don't have any effect on fuel economy or engine operation. Unless they fail, they often last the life of the vehicle.

Heater circuit faults, by themselves, will not cause an engine to run poorly. Your fault is other than the O2 sensors unless one of them has its wiring harness shorting the heater circuit to an exhaust pipe, drive train component, or chassis component.

If you follow the above advice and blindly replace all four sensors, you will waste at least $250 and probably still have the problem.

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Old May 17, 2009 | 07:57 AM
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Correct!...I probably should have elaborated on the downstream sensors more.Thanks for clairifying it for him
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Yeah, the heater problem by itself does not pose any problems, but a sensor that has a failed heater probably needs to be replaced anyway. Also, the O2 sensor does not work as well below certain temperatures, and on many vehicles, the sensor may drop below that temperature unless you are doing sustained vehicle speeds. So when you stop at a light, the sensor might cool off to the point that it cannot read accurately. This can affect your economy. Its hard to say whether or not this is actually happening in your vehicle. I would recommend replacing both upstream sensors if they have more than 80,000 miles on them. Leave the downstream sensors alone unless you get a specific code indicating a problem with them.
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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ok thanks i will replace them as soon as the rain stop over here
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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My 97 Explorer has a fuse for the heated O2 circuit.

If yours has the same -"hego system" fuse check it before you do anything else.
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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thanks do you remember the number of that fuse?
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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On my 97 Explorer it's mini fuse 11 under the hood in the power distribution box.

But, check the fuse list in your owners manual.

Edit Or a quick look at the "engine controls" wiring diagram will tell you.

autozone.com might have the wiring diagram.

I think most -but not all- Fords do have the "hego system" fuse.
 
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The Exploder's electrical system is completely different from your F150. You need to look in your owner's manual.

The heaters are used to bring the O2 sensors up to temp more quickly so the PCM can better control emissions at cold startups. Once the exhaust stream has heated the sensors after the first couple of minutes, the heaters aren't needed again until the next cold start. Other than that specific limited purpose, their failure will do nothing more than slightly elevate emissions.
 
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Old May 18, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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It is still a good idea to replace older sensors, because once they start to malfunction, they will decrease your gas mileage, and can also damage the emission components such as the EGR and catalytic converter. The sensors are cheaper to replace than those parts. So basically, I am saying replacing sensors with over 80,000 miles on them is preventive maintenance. And any gain in fuel economy is always a good thing and usually results in more power too.
 
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Old May 18, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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Sounds like someone sells O2 sensors but doesn't understand much about them.....
 
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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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That's actually a pretty common and accepted recommendation. I'd rather pay 100 and some change for 2 upstream O2 Sensors than almost a grand for cats (good old California)
 
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