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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Considering you can buy three DB starters for the price of one Denso......................... I'd have to think long and hard on that one.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pjwoolw
Considering you can buy three DB starters for the price of one Denso......................... I'd have to think long and hard on that one.
I don't completely disagree with the thought, but if the DB Chinese starter can give out wherever, then it shifts the weight over to the more expensive Denso a bit. In addition, I don't want to R&R the starter three times or have it conk out while I am on a roadtrip or towing. One long rescue tow may make it worth buying the genuine Denso. Even more so if it will last as long as I own my truck.

I just wish there was a source to compare Foster's price to.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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There was a discussion over in the other forum about Better Starters. I finished carried on a conversation there and posted my further experiences. I have a couple of pics in my album of the DB Electrical Chinese knock-off and the true Denso starters. I have also posted two Youtoob videos of the Mitsu and genuine Denso starts.

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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-starters.html

Hope this helps.

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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 06:33 AM
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That's how my original '97 starter sounded this fall. I can't beleive your DB failed so soon.

If I was you I'd have them send me a new starter, then make them pay to ship the old one back, and sell the new one. You can drop price a little and counter the 20% restocking fee. Screw them, make them send you a new one. Surely they won't make you pay to ship the new one to you?

If that National site has Nippondenso high torque 4kw starters for $149, I'd go that route over the DB any day.

Though I can say I'll be taking my old one to a local shop just to see what they can do for it.

Thanks for posting those videos.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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Starter slowing down AGAIN!

Less than 2 years after installing a "New" Napa starter it is slowing down like the original. The original starter lasted 190,000 miles. The Napa starter lasted 30,000 miles. This time I noticed the symptoms ahead of time so I can order what I want instead of having to purchase a "New" Napa starter. After reading around various posts on this topic I am going to replace it this time with a NEW Motorcraft SA903 starter used on Super Duty models after 2001. Other folks have been having luck with this starter - hopefully it will last. I need all the cold cranking rpms I can get in my climate.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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Coolio, dude. Let us know how it goes. I am interested in where MC gets their parts made, too. Mexico? Just curious. Tell us what the sticker says.

That NAPA starter was prolly a Chinese part...?

Lifetime warranty means constantly replacing it for a lifetime.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:35 PM
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Lifetime warranty means that it has to not function on their test bench. When a parts store tests the starter they can not tell that it is slowing down and losing power. It spins fine on a test bench but it won't push a 20* high compression diesel motor. As usual lifetime warranty means nothing and they lose my business.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:40 PM
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If you have a load tester you may want to check those batteries first.I had the same problem starting my truck, I got a set of batteries from autozone that gave out in little under a year,registered 12-13 volts sitting there but had no cranking power. took starter out and went to parts store and bench tested fine,they tested batteries and said they were junk,luckily under warranty and they had to replace them. worth doing a quick check!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 07:32 AM
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Yep batteries were the first thing checked. They are only a year and a half old and tested fine.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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There's a good chance the Motorcraft is made in Mexico.
There are a lot of OEM parts made in Mexico.
Personally, I have no issue with Mexico parts, but I have a big problem with made in China.

Let us know how it turns out.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DZL JIM
There's a good chance the Motorcraft is made in Mexico.
There are a lot of OEM parts made in Mexico.
Personally, I have no issue with Mexico parts, but I have a big problem with made in China.

Let us know how it turns out.
X2 on that. viva Mexico
 
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 07:16 PM
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The new starter arrives tomorrow. I will let you know where it was made when I receive it.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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Just got the new starter in. Motorcraft SA903 starters are made in the USA. Will let you know how it works after I get it installed.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 07:36 PM
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Awesome!

No offense, RÖENTGEEP... Mexico still has some awesome stuff. Negro Modelo being one of my favorites!
 
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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Awesome!

No offense, RÖENTGEEP... Mexico still has some awesome stuff. Negro Modelo being one of my favorites!
YEAP (BTW its "negra modelo") we have a lot of very good beer all over the country.
 
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