Need locals for some input
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Need locals for some input
You guys that are close to Johnstown/Altoona could probably give me a hand with this one. I posted some pics in the gallery of my Explorer. 3 of them highlight the rust issue I've got at the rear doors. Since I've got no garage here, working on it myself is out of the question, so I've been chasing around body shops to repair it. I want it fixed right - not a bondo job - since the rig is still in pretty decent mechanical order and overall good shape (and paid for...the "no car payment" feeling is kinda nice...lol).
I got one shop to give me a price ($1900 - yeouch), and just about any other shop I've talked to won't do rust work. Have any of you all dealt with anyone that might do rust work, does GOOD work, and can be reasonable from the money standpoint? I'd really like to start dealing with this sooner than later, especially with state inspection creeping up soon.
I got one shop to give me a price ($1900 - yeouch), and just about any other shop I've talked to won't do rust work. Have any of you all dealt with anyone that might do rust work, does GOOD work, and can be reasonable from the money standpoint? I'd really like to start dealing with this sooner than later, especially with state inspection creeping up soon.
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Wish I could help! Back when I worked at Freedom Ford, there was a service writer that went into business in Nanty-Glo with a buddy of his...that dude was a hell of a good body man. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to come up with a name for the shop, but then again, I haven't tried very hard. Then there's Mike Kos up in Gallitzin...he does fine work when he wants to (read: his own stuff), but most of his work is just above average, and he's pricy, too.
I've been DIYing bodywork for about five years now, and I still suck at it...otherwise I'd try to help!
Pat
I've been DIYing bodywork for about five years now, and I still suck at it...otherwise I'd try to help!
Pat
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I bet I know who the guy is from Freedom - Luciano's on Eisenhower gave me the $1900 quote and rumor has it is that he's from the Nanty Glo area.
One of the guys I train with gave me a name that I'm going to try and check out tomorrow and he's out on Beulah outside Ebensburg...small shop there. Just not too many do rust work anymore, which pretty much sucks for me. Especially given what has to be done on it, which will involve welding and crap that I don't have the skill or resources to do here.
One of the guys I train with gave me a name that I'm going to try and check out tomorrow and he's out on Beulah outside Ebensburg...small shop there. Just not too many do rust work anymore, which pretty much sucks for me. Especially given what has to be done on it, which will involve welding and crap that I don't have the skill or resources to do here.
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Most body shops don't do rust work anymore because everyone wants a garantty with it and the only thing you can give is a garantty it will come back. Have you tried looking at JC Whitney for the repair panels which I have also seen people actually glue on with urethane. Not joking here either
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yeah my room mate was talking about that new urethane stuff -they used it at the body shop he worked at-sounds pretty cool! probably still won't guarantee the work though if it's a rust issue-I'm with Dave do it your self-if ya got the talent and tools how hard can it be 
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yeah my room mate was talking about that new urethane stuff -they used it at the body shop he worked at-sounds pretty cool! probably still won't guarantee the work though if it's a rust issue-I'm with Dave do it your self-if ya got the talent and tools how hard can it be
, Yea, How hard can it be!!! Hey Jr
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Most body shops don't do rust work anymore because everyone wants a garantty with it and the only thing you can give is a garantty it will come back. Have you tried looking at JC Whitney for the repair panels which I have also seen people actually glue on with urethane. Not joking here either
Heck, I'd be willing to sign a waiver and forfeit the warranty side of it because it's rust work and I know it comes back eventually, no matter how good the fix is. I just don't want a bondo job - this deserves better, in my mind.
I would have to borrow any tools also...I'm not body-shop equipped here at all...lol. I'm even down on the mechanic's tools I'd like to have right now but I have the basics.
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so is that price for one rocker and dog leg and the back hatch ? + paint work ? and how much paint work?
also glueing on panels is very common in body shop, bed sides, rockers,cab coners, quarter panels and door skin all get glued on. the glue used is as stonge as weld and also if done right will not rust at the edge like a welded on panel
also glueing on panels is very common in body shop, bed sides, rockers,cab coners, quarter panels and door skin all get glued on. the glue used is as stonge as weld and also if done right will not rust at the edge like a welded on panel
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so is that price for one rocker and dog leg and the back hatch ? + paint work ? and how much paint work?
also glueing on panels is very common in body shop, bed sides, rockers,cab coners, quarter panels and door skin all get glued on. the glue used is as stonge as weld and also if done right will not rust at the edge like a welded on panel
also glueing on panels is very common in body shop, bed sides, rockers,cab coners, quarter panels and door skin all get glued on. the glue used is as stonge as weld and also if done right will not rust at the edge like a welded on panel
I'll have to look into that glue. If I can get the pieces I might be able to tackle some of this. Welding was a huge holdup for me even attempting to work on it - I've got no welding tools, skills nor a place I could go to do it.
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Yeah, having the wrong part would pretty much ruin my day.
This rainy spell here has kept me away from it, but at least it gives me opportunity to shop around for the parts. Plus now I've discovered I've got a friend back in the area who is able to do this kind of stuff, so maybe this won't be so bad after all.
This rainy spell here has kept me away from it, but at least it gives me opportunity to shop around for the parts. Plus now I've discovered I've got a friend back in the area who is able to do this kind of stuff, so maybe this won't be so bad after all.