HID headlights
#151
I talked to the guy in the YouTube video. He said he would do the retrofit for my '05 SD with the Bi xenon and high quality projectors for $700. A bit high for me so I'll stick to my stockers for now. By the way, be careful with those Ebay buys with the projectors already installed cuz I bought a set for a Civic I used to have. They were cheap with plastic projector lenses that threw the light out in streaks on the road. Looked like crap and made it harder to see at night.
Especially when I just picked up the projectors for $60/pair. And I can use a 'cheaper' HID kit with them (about $50/pair as a "test" kit for D2S). I'll have $110 wrapped up, with minimal material costs and most of it being labor. I'd say $150 in material when all said and done.
However, I'll lose my ability to run Low beams, with my high beams all-at-once. Which is what I love the H13 (or 9007) bulb for in the first place. So it might be time to get tricky... (more on 'tricky' later )
That same problem you speak of in the 'cheap' projector headlight assemblies, is why I've taken a pair out of a buddies truck, and put it back to stock with correct HID bulbs. Much better, in every aspect. They also sell the 'cheap' projectors that "retrofit" into some headlights. They too... aren't the best, but sometimes better than a full headlight assembly. However they take 'work' to install.
Here is a Tube link Johnny. YouTube - modified Lightforce 240 XGT HID dirving on a coutry lane I think these are the XGT 240`s which are the same reflector, not sure but should be comparable. They are an awesome light and have different lense options for diff beam patterns. The guy in this video I think had them focused in too much. You can unlock the light and refocus the depth of the bulb. My LF 170`s unlock and they spin to change the focus. pretty cool IMO.
YouTube - Lightforce XGT - focus with black spots
Very nice touch!!! However, for $100 I can buy a set of used Hella Rallye4000s and retrofit them to HID. I'd have about $200 into a pair once all said and done. Much better pricing than the Lightforce (which could end up stolen at any given moment in some places I need to park overnight )
Me neither
#152
Yeah a lot of money, that why its not done yet. But keep in mind this includes new housings (stock housings will not seperate to work on correctly), high quality projectors with high and low beam capability, what ever color temp HID you want, and what ever leds or lights you want in there for turn signals also. And its completely adjustable the same way as the stock headlight. I think it not too bad for a bolt on upgrade considering the amount of work he puts into them. Have you watched the You Tube video?
#153
Yeah a lot of money, that why its not done yet. But keep in mind this includes new housings (stock housings will not seperate to work on correctly), high quality projectors with high and low beam capability, what ever color temp HID you want, and what ever leds or lights you want in there for turn signals also. And its completely adjustable the same way as the stock headlight. I think it not too bad for a bolt on upgrade considering the amount of work he puts into them. Have you watched the You Tube video?
Why can't you bust apart OEM housings?? I know otherwise... or ask LAXAPLAYA21 (see posts below by him, or my link to his posts). It seems very doable, and has been done.
Like I mentioned before, The projectors I just bought for $60... are HELLA, from a BMW for $60 pair (used of course and, are High/low beam capable due to the solenoid actuator). Are they not "high quality" as you mention... or did I miss something? Also, is he installing new or used projectors for $700?
And are his projectors high and low beam capable due to the bulb style (H4-3 for example)? Or is the projector doing the work of high/low (via actuator or solenoid as an example)?
And what 'new' housings is he installing into, if the stockers aren't capable of separating? I see Ebay units for $100 pair... and boy, they are fugly. Then I see fuglier ones for $300... I'm assuming he'd be using a taiwan headlight assembly. Or I'd hope OEM (but not after you made the comment about not being capable of separation)
....but am curious to know more.... (at risk of a thread hi-jack)
#154
I've seen all 4 vids, and watched others... and actually have an instruction sheet on how to install "retrofit" projectors into stock housings (just as the videos are showing) which came directly from a projector manufacturer... so let me ask;
Why can't you bust apart OEM housings?? I know otherwise... or ask LAXAPLAYA21 (see posts below by him, or my link to his posts). It seems very doable, and has been done.
Why can't you bust apart OEM housings?? I know otherwise... or ask LAXAPLAYA21 (see posts below by him, or my link to his posts). It seems very doable, and has been done.
I was told it has something to do with the adhesive that OEM uses. He said it does not react to heat and does not allow it to reseal properly. Why don't you ask him yourself? He will respond to questions concerning to that video.
Like I mentioned before, The projectors I just bought for $60... are HELLA, from a BMW for $60 pair (used of course and, are High/low beam capable due to the solenoid actuator). Are they not "high quality" as you mention... or did I miss something? Also, is he installing new or used projectors for $700?
And what 'new' housings is he installing into, if the stockers aren't capable of separating? I see Ebay units for $100 pair... and boy, they are fugly. Then I see fuglier ones for $300... I'm assuming he'd be using a taiwan headlight assembly. Or I'd hope OEM (but not after you made the comment about not being capable of separation)
....but am curious to know more.... (at risk of a thread hi-jack)
....but am curious to know more.... (at risk of a thread hi-jack)
I'm not sure what caused this rant of yours but I was simply providing information to the thread.
This route is not for everyone. I am a very do it myself kind of guy but considering I have moved into condos where it is not even legal to work on a vehicle at all I would consider this an option for anyone who does not have an oven in their garage to heat the plastic (for making the shroud) and other tools required for this project.
Keep in mind I got this quote about two years ago when hid retrofits were not too common and your kit I assume was not on the market. Did you not also mention in an earlier post the you have an amount of labor involved? Another consideration for anyone who simply wants the lights and does not want to put in the time and effort. This is why I purchased a fully assembled truck instead of a few pallets of parts!
Oh and please post pictures of your completed projectors and their light output on a wall or something. I'm curious how it turns out.
#155
#156
HID
Thought I would throw my 2 cents in. I just put HID in my Ex-2004, I love them. I did blow one of the balast in the first month. I spent $250 on the set. I would advise not going cheap when you buy them. They do get hot temp wise. As far as the blown balast I think I just had a rotten one out of the bunch. I also have HI / LOW beam which was hard to find with the set that I have. I wanted pure white with a hint of blue in them. They are very nice and I would never go back. The headlight assembly that came with the truck is crap..I think..
#157
And by all means, I'll post a new thread for my own projector work. I'm not sure I'll document it as well as he did (the youtuber), but you'll get the idea. It'll more than likely be a "when I have time" project... nothing too soon, since my current HID setup works excellent.
#158
Xenon ,Bad light pattern with OEM housings
Hello ,Just finished uninstalling a nice set of Philips HID xenon ,high quility,made in Germany,took about an hour.I spent two nights trying to allign them.With the lo beam adjusted perfectly I had good light way better than factory H13 bulbs,Now turn on the Hi beam and they point in the trees ,light scatters everywhere.I really wanted these xenon to work on my 2005 F 350 ,I have factory installed xenon on a 2005 Range rover there is a huge difference from hallgens they are great .You will not be happy with full xenon and oem reflectors , for sure not on a 2005 F 350 not compatable Sorry.I was thinking about installig a Bright kit that allows you to opperate hi & lo beam at the same time but have wondered about over heating the wiring and light sockets ,Has anyone tried this? Also does any know how to bypass the hi beam cut off that turns the fog lamps off when hi beams are on RE 2005 F 350 the headlight switch is different than a 2001 as showen in a previous comment.Thanks ,scott
#160
Hello ,Just finished uninstalling a nice set of Philips HID xenon ,high quility,made in Germany,took about an hour.I spent two nights trying to allign them.With the lo beam adjusted perfectly I had good light way better than factory H13 bulbs,Now turn on the Hi beam and they point in the trees ,light scatters everywhere.I really wanted these xenon to work on my 2005 F 350 ............You will not be happy with full xenon and oem reflectors , for sure not on a 2005 F 350 not compatable .................Thanks ,scott
#161
Sorry Ive sent the kit back to philips.
The philips kit is as close to a true xenon conversion as you can buy,The factory reflectors just cant take the amount of light the produced .
#162
... I guess you missed where Philips and other companies you'd think are being built in Germany (or known quality euro locations), a lot of them are actually being produced from China factories. READ MORE HERE ... don't want to mislead anyone, so I'll put it out there somewhat bluntly.
#163
Gotta bring this back from the weeds LOL.
Has anyone put a set of HID's in these? They are projectors and recon is a decent company. Yes they are $500 but wouldn't this eliminate all the problems?
Recon Accessories: Part # 264193CL - CLEAR Projector Headlights Ford Superduty 05-07
LB
Has anyone put a set of HID's in these? They are projectors and recon is a decent company. Yes they are $500 but wouldn't this eliminate all the problems?
Recon Accessories: Part # 264193CL - CLEAR Projector Headlights Ford Superduty 05-07
LB
#164
#165
I wanted to do something with the stock lights of my 2006 F-350, as they were lousy. My plow lights were much better. I tried just replacing the bulb with one of the white light bulbs (not HID). Didn't increase the light range or spread at all; just made the light less yellow.
I ended up just adjusting the aim of the headlights - raised them up a few turns.
Made a huge difference; can see great now.
I ended up just adjusting the aim of the headlights - raised them up a few turns.
Made a huge difference; can see great now.