what brand of remote starter is that? i could live with that, its not like i don't like shutting it off. That sounds like it could save me alot of money.

 

I know you said you wouldn't go with a 6.4 but i've had 60+ thousand trouble free kilometers on mine. I even started it one time @ -38 without plugging it in and it fired up and leveled out immediately. The only problem I had was that the job 1 programming was extremely hard on fuel. I was getting 14 mpg unloaded highway. After getting the latest programming I get between 16-18 mpg and I seldom travel less then 120 km/h. If you can stand to travel @ exactly 108 km/h you can make over 20 mpg providing there is no wind. Another quirk is the truck will not run properly under about -20, turbo pressure is really high and the engine has no power. Its an easy fix though, a good winter front and a piece of cardboard between the intercooler and rad will fix that right up. I was told by a tech @ my dealer that in their experience the 6.4 is a really good engine providing you work it frequently. He said that the ones they seem to have trouble with are the ones that customers use for cars and just idle around the city all day.

Thought I'd just throw this in here since the 6.4 seems to be getting a bad rap other places on this forum. As for the sound, i would give that up for even one headgasket job. anywho, just my 2 cents.

 

The 6.4 is a much more refined package than the 6.0 and so are the 2008 and 2009 trucks vs previous years.
I had one of the most problematic 6.0 experiences imaginable; however, there are some good ones. With any design there is an acceptable amount of failure as the company cant do the numbers on building it so good that it wont die. With the 6.0, the bar was set too low. I personally would never recommend one of these engines. I wont go into all the details again but after spending as much time as I did in the service bay listening to the techs, there are more and more guys with problems!!
I like the 6.4 platform (once the DPF is removed and a tuner installed it will be one of the most powerful and fuel efficient designs on the road). The 6.0 will do a good job once head studs are installed and the EGR cooler and oil cooler are replaced and the EGR valve and cooler are disabled. However, the engine always will be a money pit --- they are expensive to keep on the road!!! A few friends have ditched them because it was a grand at a time almost every regularly scheduled service. After the upgrades were done on mine I had over 50000 trouble free kilometers with a 150 hopsepower program installed. I miss the power but the 6.4 will be stronger than the 6.0 was.
If you are idling either the 6.0 or 6.4, be sure to install a high idle kit as these engines dont like to run cool. As mentioned, these are not grocery getters, they need to work and build heat to run efficiently.

 

you seem to be enjoying your 6.4 Laredo... thats good to hear!!

 

I talked to another owner, this one with an 03 6.0 F350, at Peavey Marte today and he`s had no problems with his 200,000 km truck except for a leaking rear wheel seal and $1,000 wiring harness, the harness was past warranty off course...He often pulls a large cattle trailer and he liked the power on his stock, not chipped truck.
I`ve found that most 6.0 guys without major problems don`t talk about their trucks unless asked.

 

Nice to hear a few good things about the 6.4 from local guys.

Morris you may be right about the non problematic guys not talking about their trucks.
They are a more problematic engine then the rest of fords diesels though, and it is good to know about the potential problems that a good percentage of those engines are known for.

 

Like I said, there are some really good ones but the odds of a lemon are higher with the 6.0 than any other diesel engine in these trucks.
The cab on these 2008/2009 trucks is very impressive - quantum leap from the earlier ones for comfort and noise. The 6.4 is no hell for power stock - very similar to the 6.0 >>> dead from the start. Lined up with brother's 2005 Dmax and it beat the 6.4 by the same amount as he beat the 6.0!
Ward is gettng a programmer for his Dmax so it will be interesting - I will go on record as saing that Dmax/Allison works very well too! I would buy one hands down any and every day before a 6.0 truck. I think the new Ford cab is nicer than the GM trucks though, and the Ford is a tougher platform for a work truck. The GM remains a bit more sporty feeling and car-like though.

 

Viper SSR remote starter with anti-theft....Saved the truck already when a thief couldn't start it.

 

Well Ward can beat you to the grocery store all he wants then, till ya get a programmer!

 

I know a couple of friends, brothers actually, who both have 6 liters. One an 04 and the other an 06, the 04 has close to 200 k on it and the 06 just over 100k, neither one has had any engine trouble. Both of them are actually chevy guys, don't ask me how they both ended up with fords, so they like to run down ford any chance they get but both will agree that their trucks have served them well.

On the other hand my uncle has an 07 and last time I had talked to him he had had over 15000 in warranty done on the engine alone and I think he only has 80k on his. So as previously stated, there are good ones and there are bad ones.

Laredo F350, do you know what programming you have. I have a job 1 with the latest programming and it really livened up my truck over the previous programming. With this new programming I have raced a friend of mine with a chiped 6.0 (edge programmer w/ 115 hp I believe) on a regular bases and providing we don't race from a dead stop I can keep up with him but can't pass him. Seems to me, even from what i've heard from the 6.4 forum, different versions of programming seem to make a real difference.

 

Ive talked to plenty of guys that have had 05+ trucks that have screwed up on them too, "busting" the myth that the problems were just 30, and 04.

 

My truck is a job 2 and I think its never been flashed yet. It goes in for its first service today - 5000 kms already!

 

Damn you sure dont waste time by getting that odometer rolling!

 

First service garnered no surprises. A reflash was done on the truck. Technician did some work on the pesty TPMS but to no avail - just a **** poor design!!! A TPMS is okay, but the user should be able to adjust the alarm parameters to better tailor for loaded vs empty driving so as to match inflation pressures for load >> thus keeping ride quality high and tire wear optimal.
Cant wait for the tuner and DPF removal --- the truck is hard on fuel (15 mpg roughly) and is nothing to brag about for performance. This will change

 

i guess i never really thought about a 6.4L, last summer when the dollar was so good, i had lined up a 08 6.4 king ranch in montana for 15 grand cheaper then up here, i told them i was coming down, almost did go buy the thing, but i backed out at the last minuet because i talked to a few guys who said they hated them, so i kept my duramax. But now that there done with there first year i might buy one soon, good deal out right now, I'm not sure i'm thinking about waiting for this rumored 6.7. I've gotta keep my duramax now its worth nothing, ( i was offered 24,000 last summer, now dealer said 10,000) And its a 03 with only 160,000KM (loaded also). So i really haven't decided what to do, i think i might buy another 7.3L for another work truck and wait a year or two for another good truck. I'm up in the air.