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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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A Mercury question

This about the M500's and 600's. I have an M500 that is a 67 but the body style of a 66 1/2ton. I have been to a few auctions and noticed that there have been a few others the same as mine. Yesterday I was at an auction and they had a M600 and they said it was a 68 and that is what it said on the registration, the new owner was kind enough to show me the registration. Anyways I am still searching the internet to find an answer, maybe someone here knows.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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I had a 69 F100 that the previous owner registered as a 67 and I know for a fact it was a 69. I don`t think that SGI bothers to check older vehicles out for the proper year, just goes by the previous registrations. No matter whether they`re correct or not......
In 67 all Ford trucks did change over from the 66 styling so it`s probably an SGI or previous owner error. Mercury truck info is hard to come by, even on the net.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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How does one even tell the year from the old seriel numbers? I know from 1980 up they used the tenth letter/number in the vin.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:54 AM
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Seems Mercury trucks had some different codes and I think those records are history. So far I`ve never been able to find out much info on them though I haven`t tried too hard to do so.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:44 AM
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Like do you mean a different code in the serial number, or a separate code right on the vehicle somewhere that tells the year?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Fomoko1
Seems Mercury trucks had some different codes and I think those records are history. So far I`ve never been able to find out much info on them though I haven`t tried too hard to do so.
Beginning in 1966, the Mercury trucks use the same VIN system as the Ford's do.

1965 was the last year for the old system.

1965 M100 sample VIN: 4991014L-195001A

4 = V8 / 99 = Styleside Pickup / 10 = M100 / 14 = 114.8" Wheelbase / L = Left Hand Drive / 195001 = 1st unit built at Oakville / A = Gross Vehicle Weight Range: From 3.6M to 5.6M

1965 F100 sample VIN: F10DR639000

F10 = F100 2WD / D = 352 2V / R = San Jose Assembly Plant / 639000 = Assembled January 1965.

I can decode 1965 Mercury VIN's, all the other info on the plate, but nothing previous.

Ford trucks didn't go to the 17 digit VIN's until 1981.

Cars have 17 digit VIN's beginning in 1980.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 07:00 AM
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So Bill, whats the trick(if any) to decoding a vin prior to 1980 (1981 for ford trucks, thanks for clearing that up!)?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by preppypyro
So Bill, whats the trick (if any) to decoding a vin prior to 1980 (1981 for ford trucks, thanks for clearing that up!)?
Well...you can use the FTE VIN decoders, but they are far from accurate!

I use the parts catalogs, so I can decode any US truck thru 2002.

11 digit VIN: F10 D R 639000

The first 3 digits is the Series Code, the 4th is the Engine Code, the 5th is the Assembly Plant Code, the last 6 digits is the serial number.

The serial number denotes the year thru 1980, later trucks have production dates, as the cars have had since the 1950's.

1965 F100/1100 Serial Number range: 580,001 thru 732,000.

The info on the Warranty Plate is more involved and changed over the years.

1965 F100/1100: First line: VIN.

Second line: Wheelbase / Color(s) Code / Model Code / Body Code / Trans Code / Axle Code.

Third line: GVW(R) / HP / RPM / DSO.

I can decode the car stuff, too.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 07:18 AM
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Very neat Bill, thanks for the info, and example!
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Interesting Bill

The best answer I can come up with Colin is they used older cabs. Extra cabs from 66 running down their inventory. Grain trucks didnt really have to be fashionable.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowking
Interesting Bill

The best answer I can come up with Colin is they used older cabs. Extra cabs from 66 running down their inventory. Grain trucks didnt really have to be fashionable.
What's the VIN of this supposed 1967 Mercury truck?

I'd be willing to bet it's a 1966, as I cannot see Ford using a 1961/66 body style then calling it a 1967...unless it has RHD and was originally assembled for the Australian/New Zealand or South African market.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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Thanks for the input guys, I figure it is just an error but the truck the other day got me thinking.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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my old 52 was registered as a 53 and i cant remember who decoded the vin for me but my vin number on it was also a 53 vin number but it was the 52 body style
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by etnies13
my old 52 was registered as a 53 and i cant remember who decoded the vin for me but my vin number on it was also a 53 vin number but it was the 52 body style
I wonder if it was the correct Vin tag for your truck and if so then was the VIN was correctly decoded?
Did you sell this truck to a local or did it end up leaving town?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Thats pretty odd Bryce. Makes ya wonder if someone maybe even swapped vin numbers back in the day or something.
 
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