DO ALL OUR X's DO THIS????
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DO ALL OUR X's DO THIS????
i have a question, when i am in my x, (motor running ofcourse) and i have my foot firmly on the brake pedel, when i turn the front wheels they dont want to turn but if i let off the brake a little and just lightly press the brake they turn with no resistance??? is this a normail characteristic of the X due to the heavy front end, or is this a problem with mine?? i do have bigger tires than OEM, but i dont think thats it...
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you have a hydraulic pump that runs the power brake booster and the power steering if it's a diesel. Unlike gas engines or OBS F series you do not use engine vaccum or a vacuum pump to run the power brake booster. at low RPM you are not producing a lot of Hydraulic pressure or flow so with the bigger tires it will drag like a gasser with power steering at full at idle. My Excursion does the exact same thing. just tested it... for diesel its totally normal... as for your gasser, not sure if the setup is the same or if you have a vacuum powered brake booster
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you have a hydraulic pump that runs the power brake booster and the power steering if it's a diesel. Unlike gas engines or OBS F series you do not use engine vaccum or a vacuum pump to run the power brake booster. at low RPM you are not producing a lot of Hydraulic pressure or flow so with the bigger tires it will drag like a gasser with power steering at full at idle. My Excursion does the exact same thing. just tested it... for diesel its totally normal... as for your gasser, not sure if the setup is the same or if you have a vacuum powered brake booster
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Pot calling the Kettle black arn't you? if you see I said at the bottom that I didnt know if his gasser used a standard Vacuum setup or also had the Hydraulic system
I checked my Alldata files and it shows both options under the 2000 V10 so not sure if that is a mistake or not in the data... I would say try running the rpms up a bit and see if it still does it
I checked my Alldata files and it shows both options under the 2000 V10 so not sure if that is a mistake or not in the data... I would say try running the rpms up a bit and see if it still does it
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i have a question, when i am in my x, (motor running ofcourse) and i have my foot firmly on the brake pedel, when i turn the front wheels they dont want to turn but if i let off the brake a little and just lightly press the brake they turn with no resistance??? is this a normail characteristic of the X due to the heavy front end, or is this a problem with mine?? i do have bigger tires than OEM, but i dont think thats it...
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i have a question, when i am in my x, (motor running ofcourse) and i have my foot firmly on the brake pedel, when i turn the front wheels they dont want to turn but if i let off the brake a little and just lightly press the brake they turn with no resistance??? is this a normail characteristic of the X due to the heavy front end, or is this a problem with mine?? i do have bigger tires than OEM, but i dont think thats it...
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That's normal. The engine does not have nothing to do with it. Let me try to explain myself a little. Do this. Have someone sit in the driver's seat while you are outside staring at the driver side front wheel. Have him/her turn the steering to the all the way to the left(engine idling, trans in park, no brakes applied). Now you will see the tire slightly roll back. Turn to the steering wheel all the way right and you'll see the tire forward. Now if you apply the brakes(hard), you're keeping the tire to roll, making it hard to turn......go check it out.
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That's normal. The engine does not have nothing to do with it. Let me try to explain myself a little. Do this. Have someone sit in the driver's seat while you are outside staring at the driver side front wheel. Have him/her turn the steering to the all the way to the left(engine idling, trans in park, no brakes applied). Now you will see the tire slightly roll back. Turn to the steering wheel all the way right and you'll see the tire forward. Now if you apply the brakes(hard), you're keeping the tire to roll, making it hard to turn......go check it out.
Bennie C.
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That's normal. The engine does not have nothing to do with it. Let me try to explain myself a little. Do this. Have someone sit in the driver's seat while you are outside staring at the driver side front wheel. Have him/her turn the steering to the all the way to the left(engine idling, trans in park, no brakes applied). Now you will see the tire slightly roll back. Turn to the steering wheel all the way right and you'll see the tire forward. Now if you apply the brakes(hard), you're keeping the tire to roll, making it hard to turn......go check it out.
Bennie C.
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My 250 is terrible at this, it doesn't even want to turn unless it rolling.
My Ex turns with ease while stopped, even with lite brake pressure it still turns fine, but with some drag.
So no not all are this way.
My Ex turns with ease while stopped, even with lite brake pressure it still turns fine, but with some drag.
So no not all are this way.
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