ZF and X-fer case question
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ZF and X-fer case question
Someone set me straight. Dealing with mid-80's through mid 90's era ZF 5-speed. Can't recall which transfer case/cases may have come from the factory behind it. I know someone knows. I mean Ford did make 4WD trucks with the ZF in them right? Sounds like a newbie question but the only stupid one it the one I don't ask. (No, I don't have the transfer case I have only the engine/transmission).
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They would have had a veriety of Brg Warner transfer cases, and these chain driven cases are not all that desireable.
You can install just about any "ford" transfer case behind this transmission, since the fords had the same 6 bolt pattern and spline count.
The common swap, alright maybe not so common, as many may not know, but the cast iron NP 205 can be installed behind the ZF.
You can install just about any "ford" transfer case behind this transmission, since the fords had the same 6 bolt pattern and spline count.
The common swap, alright maybe not so common, as many may not know, but the cast iron NP 205 can be installed behind the ZF.
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That is actually the exact answer I was looking for. The BW cases are inherently flimsy by my standards so I really wanted to see if something like the 205 would work. The 205 was put in the full size Bronco briefly and I may have access to a used one.
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I've heard two different opinions on the BW vs NP...
For the every day driver that just needs 4x4 to get around on slippery roads once in awhile the BW is better suited.
For those that are into the serious off road activities, the NP is the only way to go.
I personally don't have the 4x4 experience to know.
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For the every day driver that just needs 4x4 to get around on slippery roads once in awhile the BW is better suited.
For those that are into the serious off road activities, the NP is the only way to go.
I personally don't have the 4x4 experience to know.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
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Thats interesting, for I have never heard of such a debate. I am not trying to start or create an friction, but I would like to read about the differences of opinion here.
I would imagine that many like some of the aluminum cases that may have electronic actuators that engage the 4wd option, and other may like the lower ratio available in the low range. Perhaps the slight noise factor of the gear driven case VS the aluminum chain driven case might be a consideration.
However for all or any of the arguements that might be made about the 205 having less superiority for even a daily driver, I could not possible see a single one.
Now there is a slight sacrifice when using the 205 in place of any BW case, and that is the dimension itself. SInce the 205 is a more compact case, and it is commonly used in later model trucks with the front diffierential placed closer to the driver side knuckle, the driveline angle then becomes a compound angle, but this is a small issue and does not create much of a problem.
I am curious, and would like to participate in such a discussion.
I would imagine that many like some of the aluminum cases that may have electronic actuators that engage the 4wd option, and other may like the lower ratio available in the low range. Perhaps the slight noise factor of the gear driven case VS the aluminum chain driven case might be a consideration.
However for all or any of the arguements that might be made about the 205 having less superiority for even a daily driver, I could not possible see a single one.
Now there is a slight sacrifice when using the 205 in place of any BW case, and that is the dimension itself. SInce the 205 is a more compact case, and it is commonly used in later model trucks with the front diffierential placed closer to the driver side knuckle, the driveline angle then becomes a compound angle, but this is a small issue and does not create much of a problem.
I am curious, and would like to participate in such a discussion.
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I would be intrigued by the same discussion. My own experience with the electronically shifted BW units is less than stellar. Shift motor engagement and alignment issues and just plain failures to name a few. While I have never actually broken a chain, I have stretched them pretty well. Admittedly, I don't get too serious in my off-road excursions but I'd rather be sitting on a piece of equipment that doesn't have this known weakness when and if the time ever comes that I end up in a serious predicament.
I haven't looked into the actual gearing of these units or how they compare so I can't speak to that. But I do know that as someone who is more concerned with getting there and being able to rely on my equipment, I would be more than willing to sacrifice a little more peace and quiet for a little more peace of mind. I welcome more information/discussion as I have not begun this project in earnest yet.
I haven't looked into the actual gearing of these units or how they compare so I can't speak to that. But I do know that as someone who is more concerned with getting there and being able to rely on my equipment, I would be more than willing to sacrifice a little more peace and quiet for a little more peace of mind. I welcome more information/discussion as I have not begun this project in earnest yet.
