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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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Help with wiring brake controller

I bought a 2000 F250 V10 last month to tow my trailer. I went out yesterday to install my Prodigy brake controller. I thought it was going to be a simple plug and play day...well it wasn't. Under the dash I think I found the wires that need to be connected to the Prodigy wire harness but they appear to be cut. Then I look inside the engine compartment and find the same thing. I went to a local stealership and they said I would need to by the entire wiring harness for $1353....

Can anyone help????

I will try to post the pictures I took to give everyone a better idea of what I am talking about.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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For some reason I am not able to post the photos. Anyone know how to post?
 
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Got a good idea of what you are describing....to heck with the new harness.... I'd just wire the Prodigy in like in the old days.... Can you possibly reconnect the engine side back to where they were cut from?

If worse comes to worst, I'd call the number on the Prodigy and talk to a rep there. They have been VERY helpful to others. I think they could tell you what to do. Maybe even email you some directions.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 09:57 AM
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I am not sure I will be able to reconnect the engine side wires back to the engine fuse box without the proper connectors. I could be wrong and for that matter I hope I am.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by azhunter18
For some reason I am not able to post the photos. Anyone know how to post?
Click on "User CP". Along the left side of the control panel under "Networking", click on "Pictures and Albums" Follow the directions and upload your pictures. After the pictures are in the album, each will have a forum code that you can copy and paste into a thread. Good luck!
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by azhunter18
I am not sure I will be able to reconnect the engine side wires back to the engine fuse box without the proper connectors. I could be wrong and for that matter I hope I am.
Auto Zone or most any auto parts store should have all the connectors you might require. - I'd still call Prodigy if their installation sheets that came with it don't help.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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Double post........sorry
 

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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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I'm not sure you're looking at the brake controller wires. Those look like the customer pass through wires. At least the ones in the very first picture, and the engine bay pictures. Where in the cab are those wires?

The electric trailer brake controller connector is sometimes very hard to find. It's on the far right of the access panel under the dash, firmly attached to a frame member. It can be a bit difficult to access.

The missing fuses/relay's are actually not unusual. In many earlier vehicles, they were not installed at the factory but were put in a bag in the glove box for the dealer or the customer to install. They include the fuse for power to the brake controller, and a fuse and relay for the 12v feed to the 7 way plug. You should be able to find the location, fuse rating, etc in your owners manual. If you don't have an owners manual, you can download one here.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenan...ls/default.asp
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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OK. I've taken a lot closer look at the pictures. I believe the 4 wires you are pointing out in the engine compartment are the customer pass through wires. Those appear to be the factory taping on the ends.

However, take a look at the picture I've attached here. In one red circle is a grey connector. This is the trailer brake controller connector. I've also circled 5 wires that I'm guessing have been cut off that connector. If this is the case, the wires are as follows.

Brown - Illumination. You won't need this.
White - Ground
Red - Voltage supplied at all times
Light Green - Voltage from brake switch
Dark Blue - Wire to 7 way connector for the brake signal

You may still need to put the fuses into the engine compartment. But if someone had a brake controller wired there, you actually shouldn't.
 
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You are life saver David.

I ran outside and was able to locate the plug. I was able to weasel my hands in there to connect the prodigy wire harness.

Thanks for all the help.

I am pissed that the stealership (a parts guy actually came out and looked at the wires) wasn't able or did not want to tell me what was going on.
 
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I assume the controller worked then? I guess those cut wires under there must be what I originally thought, the customer pass through wires.

Glad you got it working.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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I don't have my trailer here to test fully but everything looked good when I plugged in the brake controller. I will try to hook up the trailer this weekend to make sure all is OK.
 
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Please keep us posted.....Is there any way to find out if your truck came from the factory with the trailer towing package?? if it did then most likely all the fuses are already in place....
 
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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I didn't have time to hook up the trailer this weekend as planned so can't confirm that everything is good. The truck did come from the factory with the trailer towing package but it did not have the fuses in place. I bought some and popped them in.

Once I hook up the trailer I will let you know how it goes.
 
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