diverter valve part number / alt name?
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I've got tank cross talk between both tanks. Font pump has been replaced twice.
Local dealer closed up. I'll have to call monday.
Yes twin pumps in tank but my 96 factory electrical and vacuum book says theres an electric valve located on the frame rail.
page 49-1 shows a fuel tank selector valve see section 152
page 152-6 list fuel selector valve base part number 9F271... under lh center of vehicle, on LH frame rail...connector C423page zone 151-15-f5
So it looks like 96 has one. I've alway been told no and thats why i replace the front pump the second time relay did it 3 times as i had to put back in the OEM pump while waiting for a replacement to come...
My rear tank recently sprung a leak and this is my winter vehicle so i have to run on the front then 20 miles before work swap to the rear tank and redrain it so i don't eat a hole in the parking lot...
I bet its behind the front tank too. Loads of fun..........
44
Local dealer closed up. I'll have to call monday.
Yes twin pumps in tank but my 96 factory electrical and vacuum book says theres an electric valve located on the frame rail.
page 49-1 shows a fuel tank selector valve see section 152
page 152-6 list fuel selector valve base part number 9F271... under lh center of vehicle, on LH frame rail...connector C423page zone 151-15-f5
So it looks like 96 has one. I've alway been told no and thats why i replace the front pump the second time relay did it 3 times as i had to put back in the OEM pump while waiting for a replacement to come...
My rear tank recently sprung a leak and this is my winter vehicle so i have to run on the front then 20 miles before work swap to the rear tank and redrain it so i don't eat a hole in the parking lot...
I bet its behind the front tank too. Loads of fun..........
44
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Yes twin pumps in tank but my 96 factory electrical and vacuum book says theres an electric valve located on the frame rail.
page 49-1 shows a fuel tank selector valve see section 152
page 152-6 list fuel selector valve base part number 9F271... under lh center of vehicle, on LH frame rail...connector C423page zone 151-15-f5
page 49-1 shows a fuel tank selector valve see section 152
page 152-6 list fuel selector valve base part number 9F271... under lh center of vehicle, on LH frame rail...connector C423page zone 151-15-f5
The ID number will be molded into the plastic and will be similar to this: E7TA-9F271-AA.
Doesn't really matter, because:
F1UZ9B263B .. Fuel Selector Valve & Reservoir Assembly
Fits: 1994/96 F150.
MSRP: $146.56 // FTEpartsguy.com price: $79.14
FTE Sponsor: FTE Parts Guy = Ed Olson @ PARR FORD in Bremerton WA
Ed has this valve in stock and the link to his website is on this page among the sponsors.
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I've got tank cross talk between both tanks. Font pump has been replaced twice.
Local dealer closed up. I'll have to call monday.
Local dealer closed up. I'll have to call monday.
As mentioned earlier, the switching between tanks is done in each tank's fuel delivery module, with no external switching valve, beginning in 1990. The tank where the fuel is going is the one that needs the new FDM. These are definitely not a dealer item and should be available at parts stores.
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So..what would you call the following?
F1UZ9B263B
This is what Ford calls it: FUEL TANK SELECTOR VALVE & RESERVOIR ASSY.
Fits: 1994/96 F150.
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Alrighty!! Took a while to look it up in my manual for 1990, I don't have the Factory Manual for a 1996, but I'm guessing they are very similar for the fuel systom.
I think we are both right.
F150 gas engine does not have a diverter valve.
Diesel engine DOES have a diverter valve mounted on the frame rail and electricaly controlled.
44 are you working on a diesel?
Frank
I think we are both right.
F150 gas engine does not have a diverter valve.
Diesel engine DOES have a diverter valve mounted on the frame rail and electricaly controlled.
44 are you working on a diesel?
Frank
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thanks and confused
Number Dummy
I don't know if any one has ever thanked you for sharing your knowledge and time by helping everyone find part numbers.
Thanks Bill. You are a great asset to the forum.
I know you have forgotten more about Ford parts than I will ever know or even want to know.
I was very surprised when you posted the part number for the diverter valve. I figured I had screwed up in my post about him not having one.
This morning I dragged out my manuals to see where I had gone wrong. I have the factory service manual for 1990 Bronco, Econoline, F-series, & F-Super Duty.
Also have a factory electrical and vacuum troubleshooting manual.
Both manuals show the same thing, gas engine F series two pumps, no diverter valve. Diesel engine has a diverter valve.
After I bought my truck, but before I bought the manuals, I read in the forums about the diverter valve and the third pump on the frame rail.
Planning to change the fuel filter I crawled under the truck and looked for both things. All I found was a fuel filter. I looked and looked. All I can find is a fuel filter.
Latter I learned the 1990 only had in tank pumps.
I don't know how other years are set up, but I always thought latter than 90 had in tank pumps only. If I'm wrong, I apologize.
Only thing I know for certain, is my 1990 manual shows only two pumps and no valve. I have only been able to find two pumps and no valve.
If the gas engine does in fact have a diverter valve, I sure would like to see a picture of it installed. The manual has a pretty nice diagram of it for the diesel, so I kind of have an idea of the size and looks of it.
When I ask if 44 was working on a diesel, I was gently trying to suggest perhaps he had gotten on the wrong page of his wiring diagram. It is the right page vs. the left in my manual. 44 said he has changed the front tank pump three times and doesn't know where the diverter valve is located, and guesses it is up behind the tank. I would have thought he would have noticed it if it was there. But I've been wrong before.
Now I'm pretty confused. From the info in this thread it sounds like had a valve in the late 80's, didn't in the early 90's, and had it again in the mid 90's. That just doesn't make sense, but a lot of things in life don't make sense to me.
I'm very interested in the eventual outcome of this thread.
Frank
I don't know if any one has ever thanked you for sharing your knowledge and time by helping everyone find part numbers.
Thanks Bill. You are a great asset to the forum.
I know you have forgotten more about Ford parts than I will ever know or even want to know.
I was very surprised when you posted the part number for the diverter valve. I figured I had screwed up in my post about him not having one.
This morning I dragged out my manuals to see where I had gone wrong. I have the factory service manual for 1990 Bronco, Econoline, F-series, & F-Super Duty.
Also have a factory electrical and vacuum troubleshooting manual.
Both manuals show the same thing, gas engine F series two pumps, no diverter valve. Diesel engine has a diverter valve.
After I bought my truck, but before I bought the manuals, I read in the forums about the diverter valve and the third pump on the frame rail.
Planning to change the fuel filter I crawled under the truck and looked for both things. All I found was a fuel filter. I looked and looked. All I can find is a fuel filter.
Latter I learned the 1990 only had in tank pumps.
I don't know how other years are set up, but I always thought latter than 90 had in tank pumps only. If I'm wrong, I apologize.
Only thing I know for certain, is my 1990 manual shows only two pumps and no valve. I have only been able to find two pumps and no valve.
If the gas engine does in fact have a diverter valve, I sure would like to see a picture of it installed. The manual has a pretty nice diagram of it for the diesel, so I kind of have an idea of the size and looks of it.
When I ask if 44 was working on a diesel, I was gently trying to suggest perhaps he had gotten on the wrong page of his wiring diagram. It is the right page vs. the left in my manual. 44 said he has changed the front tank pump three times and doesn't know where the diverter valve is located, and guesses it is up behind the tank. I would have thought he would have noticed it if it was there. But I've been wrong before.
Now I'm pretty confused. From the info in this thread it sounds like had a valve in the late 80's, didn't in the early 90's, and had it again in the mid 90's. That just doesn't make sense, but a lot of things in life don't make sense to me.
I'm very interested in the eventual outcome of this thread.
Frank
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I know you're just going off of the microfiche, but I'm reasonably sure all gasoline F-series trucks '90 and up used the integral fuel pump/shuttle valve assembly in each tank. I've not seen an external tank selector valve on the few 94-96 F150s I have been underneath. Does the conventional numbering scheme apply, meaning that the part ID/number F1___ would refer to year 1991?
I'll be the first to admit that I'm wrong, but I haven't seen anything to make be believe anything was different from 93 to 94 on the F150 fuel system.
I'll be the first to admit that I'm wrong, but I haven't seen anything to make be believe anything was different from 93 to 94 on the F150 fuel system.
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I know you're just going off of the 1990/2002 FORD LIGHT TRUCK PARTS CATALOG on microfiche, but I'm reasonably sure all gasoline F-series trucks '90 and up used the integral fuel pump/shuttle valve assembly in each tank. I've not seen an external tank selector valve on the few 94-96 F150s I have been underneath.
Does the conventional numbering scheme apply, meaning that the part ID/number F1___ would refer to year 1991?
I'll be the first to admit that I'm wrong, but I haven't seen anything to make be believe anything was different from 93 to 94 on the F150 fuel system.
Does the conventional numbering scheme apply, meaning that the part ID/number F1___ would refer to year 1991?
I'll be the first to admit that I'm wrong, but I haven't seen anything to make be believe anything was different from 93 to 94 on the F150 fuel system.
Notice that the F1UZ prefix has a U as the third digit, U is the Ford parts catalog symbol for Econolines.
Does the part only fit Econolines? No.
Then there's this: Ford updates 10's of 1000's of part numbers a year, so a part number prefix could be 1, 10, 20, maybe even 75 years newer than the vehicle the part fits.
Two examples:
1) The oil sending switch used with the dash oil gauge on cars & trucks is E4ZZ9278A which fits all the way back to 1957, because...
E4ZZ-9278-A replaced: C9ZZ-9278-A, C7ZZ-9278-A and B7A-9278-A. E4ZZ is the part number prefix for a 1984 Mustang.
Does the part only fit this particular car? No.
2) FIUZ9B263B replaced: E7TZ9B263A, FOUZ9B263A and FIUZ9B263A, so it actually fits 1987/96, not just 1994/96.
What is the information difference between the Ford parts catalogs on microfiche and the CD's Ford is using today? Nothing..it's the same info, only on a different format.
There is an EZ way to settle this by contacting FTE Sponsor FTEpartsguy.com (Ed Olson @ PARR FORD in Bremerton WA) and ask Ed what F1UZ9B263B's application is.
Here's my all time fav-o-rite Ford part number update: "Little Deuce Coupe" (1932 Ford) calls for a B-1012 lug nut.
B-1012 was replaced by: B-1012-A, COAZ-1012-A, C9AZ-1012-A, E6DZ-1012-A, E8AZ-1012-A and 6W7Z1012AA!
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I'm not arguing that you have given the correct number, so forgive me if I gave that impression. I was just verifying what I have read that the first letter and number give the year of the part design/release, not necessarily corresponding to what year vehicle it was used (I did know that). Please don't reply to me as if I'm stupid, I'm not, and neither are you.
My biggest question, though, is what determined if an F150 used the external switching valve in 94-96 and why they would be different than the 93 F150s that used the in-tank shuttle valve setup that I believed to be used from '90-'96. The 94 and 95 trucks I have worked on both used the in-tank switching mechanism. It doesn't make sense that some would be different than others, although OEMs do seem to do things that don't make sense to the general public.
My biggest question, though, is what determined if an F150 used the external switching valve in 94-96 and why they would be different than the 93 F150s that used the in-tank shuttle valve setup that I believed to be used from '90-'96. The 94 and 95 trucks I have worked on both used the in-tank switching mechanism. It doesn't make sense that some would be different than others, although OEMs do seem to do things that don't make sense to the general public.