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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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Points system problem? Newbie

Im not real good with engines. The truck was running good. Then it started to die out and stalled. The points were a little burnt so I bought a new set and put them on. .017 gap. The truck still wont run... Any ideas on how to find out the problem here? Pretty sure its not gas problem because there is gas in the carb. Any help or ideas would be a appreciated...

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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Are you getting spark? Pull the dist. cap, turn engine over until the points are on a point, loosen the dist. Turn on the key, and turn dist and watch to see if the points "fire".
 
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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When I leave the key on and open and close the points there is a spark there... Is that what you mean?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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When I leave the key on and open and close the points there is a spark there... Is that what you mean?
Yes, it means that you are getting spark and the coil is working. Did you change the timing after the points install? Double check the point gap, make sure points are rihgt on the cam point.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Pull the coil wire from the top of the distributor, lay it somewhere on the engine where it's about an inch away from the metal of the block or intake, and crank the engine over. Do you get a spark?

If so, sounds like the timing is way off...

OR - do this: Remove the air cleaner, look down the throat of the carb, and open the throttle a few times by hand. Do you see any fuel squirting down the carb? If not, you have no fuel
 
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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I dont think I changed the timing.. How is that done maybe I did by accident,,, What do you mean by make sure the points are right on cam point? And how is that adjusted?

Thanks for the help...
 
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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The follower on the points has to be on the bump on the shaft in the dizzy. This is the position where you will set your points.
 
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When you set the points, where was the pastictab on the points riding?
 
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Could you explain the follower as I said im a newbie and dont know a whole lot. Or picttures? I just took the old ones off and put new ones on. I set the gap when it was at the highest point on the rotating thing.

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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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The follower is the pastice piece on the points that rides on the dist cam AKA the "rotating thing".
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bertha66
The follower is the pastice piece on the points that rides on the dist cam AKA the "rotating thing".
Actually it is a rub or wear block. Where do you guys get these weird names for car parts?

Oh yeah, loosening the dist. to check for spark in stupid at best. It screws up your timing at the least. Either use the mechanical advance and twist the rotor or do the cranking thing like kerwat said. IMHO, and inch is to wide a gap. Most ignition systems that give a spark gap to jump number go with 3/8" to 7/16" and a points system is gonna have to be real good to do the 3/8"
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
IMHO, and inch is to wide a gap. Most ignition systems that give a spark gap to jump number go with 3/8" to 7/16" and a points system is gonna have to be real good to do the 3/8"
Excellent point, Bear. Been too long on HEI ignitions for me
 
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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Replace the condensor too.

Since you have a spark when opening and closing the points, the condensor is not shorted, but if the points were old and worn out, the condensor most likely needs replacing as well. If it is bad, your new points will not last very long.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Not changing the condenser when you change the points is a poor maintenance move. Back in the good old days, before electronic ignition existed. tune-up kits all had points, condenser, rotor, rub block lube and sometimes the cap.
 
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Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
Actually it is a rub or wear block. Where do you guys get these weird names for car parts?

I do know what it is called, but some people do not, and when working with a problem, myself, I try to keep the terms that the poster is using. So as not the confuse the dialog. So I'm sorry that I confused you or insulted you.
 
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