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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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5.4 liter preignition problem.

I need some help with a preignition problem. I have a 98 expy with a 5.4l. It has 166k miles on it. I am getting a lot of pinging under load until it is warmed up. After that I get some when it shifts into a higher gear but only for a very short time (2 or 3 pings then its gone) I'm not getting any codes. I have cleaned the MAS which helped quite a bit with the pinging on the shifts but no change when cold. I have replaced the EGR Valve and made sure the ports to the throttle body are not clogged with Carbon (No Change). I have also tried running sea foam trough the vacuum tube into the back of the throttle body (No Change). I have seen in other post that the DTFE sensor may cause problems with the EGR system but this normally throughs a code and causes idle problems.

What else should I look at? The plugs where last changed at just over 100,000 miles.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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Many 98 F150's had too much timing and required a PCM reflash.
Have you checked the fuel pressure? A partially clogged fuel filter can cause a lean condition. It needs to be driven with a real time data logger to watch the fuel and timing trims to see if either is out of range.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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I forgot to mention that I just changed the fuel filter 2 weeks ago.

It seems that the pinging is always coming from the left (Driver) side of the engine. Is there any chance I just need to change the plugs?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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Thanks

I forgot to mention that I just changed the fuel filter 2 weeks ago.

It seems that the pinging is always coming from the left (Driver) side of the engine. Is there any chance I just need to change the plugs?
"True" pinging with a cold engine is most unusual. With your year engine and cold "pinging" I'd be looking at a plug getting ready to blow out of the head. Might be a good time to check them or change them. Use antiseize and a torque wrench when re-installing them. If you had the newer PI heads then possibly your rear exhaust valves are sticking. But they usually cause an "exhaust manifold ticking leak sound".

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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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I too suspect a couple of broken exhaust manifolds studs.
I would double check the spark plugs to make sure none are loose or you could blow one out of the head and that is bad news. But, I would suspect the exhaust is leaking at the head. Pretty common.
 
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