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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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How Much TIMING

how much timing are you guys running on your 5.0 pickups initial and total and when it's all in by right now i have mine running 8*initial and i think 36* all in but i forget it's set to be all in at 2800 i was thinking bumping up the initial to 10-12* or maybe higher depending on what you guys think

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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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When I had the 5.0 in my `90 truck I had it at 12 deg. most of the time.With the new 393 I have it up to 17 but I`m putting octane booster in w/premium Shell gas and it seems to run crisper.I just kept advancing it until I found the sweet spot
 
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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yeah i think i'm gona advance it a little more i run 96 octane
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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first octane boosters is a scam, better off buying premium. Now your old school camshaft bleeds off more compression than a stock one. It results a lower dynamic compression ratio and thats whats important for fuel requirements, not the static compression. Having your timing all in by 2800 may need some more octane.

I also would increase the timing, do you use any vac advance?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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we actually buy an 96 octane mix from VP race fuels in 10,000 gallon quanities for everything on the farm

and no i don't use vacuum advance i run just mechanical advance
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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we actually buy an 96 octane mix from VP race fuels in 10,000 gallon quanities for everything on the farm

and no i don't use vacuum advance i run just mechanical advance
i would try to get up around 16-20 inital if i was you, as long as it restarts warm.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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yeah i tried 12* initial today and it ran great but i need to adjust something because it detonates when i take my foot off the throttle or make the transition from three quarter throttle to half throttle i think maybe my carb is out of adjustment just by a littlebit

and the more timing i give it the worse it gets
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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yeah i tried 12* initial today and it ran great but i need to adjust something because it detonates when i take my foot off the throttle or make the transition from three quarter throttle to half throttle i think maybe my carb is out of adjustment just by a littlebit

and the more timing i give it the worse it gets

I take it you are running some lighter springs in your dizzy. You may be stuck with 8 degrees since you have it coming in so fast. heavy vehicles don't like the timing so as a lighter car would.
 
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yeah i'm realizing that with the converter (3500 stall) i have in the truck it isn't a problem at all and has really good power and everything till i get in 3rd with the converter locked up and the secondaries open, when i let off the throttle the secondaries close and i can feel detonation so i'm thinking about putting some heavier springs in it and running all in at 3000 or 3200
 
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