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went to my buddies at the tranny shop and they said that they could build a 500hp AOD but didn't know what to put in it and said i would have to figure out what parts to buy and buy them and bring it all to them and they would assemble it. sooo what parts would i need i am already guessing a shift kit, hardened input shaft are there 2 input shafts?, some better servos, better clutches how many can i fit in to the clutch pack?, anything else? i'm sure i'm missing something the only trans i have had built is a c6 and that's a little simplier than this lol
is it possible to change the shift pattern to PRN321 with overdrive as a toggle switch? is that what the AODEs used? that would be easier to shift i hate having to shift to second then back to first to hold second gear it feels like i'm gona blow the tranny up or something
and 500hp is only a guess it's probably a 350-375 horse 302 with a 125 shot of nitrous on it
thanks in advance for anyone who responds to this i appreciate it and does anyone know where to get the parts? would summit have them or ebay maybe, i saw a servo on ebay
if not this then what about a tko 600 can they be fitted to a transfer case and use the stock driveshaft length?
is the ZF capable of being powershifted at 6k? and hold 500hp
A lot of guys that build there AODs are using the wide racio gear sets out of the 4R70W...This is a good up grade... I think the only way to change the shifting on them is to use a manuel valve body No sure...I havnt seen anouther way to do it ...
I've been to Baumann Engineering's site. They have all the parts they recommend for upgrading the AOD to hold 500hp. They are at: Baumann Electronic Controls Home Page
As far as the shifting pattern, I don't think you can change it. The AODE uses electronic shifting from the ECM. That is why they put the O/D on a switch instead of a shifter position like our AOD's.
I'm getting ready to have my AOD rebuilt also, after ruining it behind my 351w.
I've got a Bradco AOD behind a 408W in my '90 Mustang. It's a full manual valve body with pushbutton OD and a push button trans-brake. I use a B&M Hammer Shifter and it works flawlessly shifting at 6200. The car puts down 507 at the wheels. It uses a PA Valvebody, F150 input shaft, Lincoln Mark VIII output shaft, alto red clutches, super servo, kevlar band, and a Bradco 3500 convertor. Total for everything was $1700 and it now has over 30,000 miles on it with no problems. Lentech also makes good stuff for the AOD.
I was unaware the AOD generated any HP, let alone 500.....
but suffice to say, on the AOD the 3-4 shift is not electronic. To make it toggle-able I would have to imagine there is some plumbing added to add a solenoid
[QUOTE=Conanski;7151962] WTF?? How can they promise you a 500hp tranny if they don't know what it needs to get there?QUOTE]
No kidding. If they don't know right off the top of their heads what to do, I wouldn't let them work on my trans. We aren't talking about a TH350 here.
Originally Posted by 1966Tbird
is it possible to change the shift pattern to PRN321 with overdrive as a toggle switch?
I believe that is how the Lentech AOD's are set up, so should be able to track the stuff down for it.
Originally Posted by 1966Tbird
if not this then what about a tko 600 can they be fitted to a transfer case and use the stock driveshaft length?
Never seen a TKO600 in front of a transfer case...you might be able to do a divorced t case, though.
Originally Posted by 1966Tbird
is the ZF capable of being powershifted at 6k? and hold 500hp
I don't think it is gonna be very happy doing it....
Run away from that shop. If they don't know what to put in it, what makes them think they know how to put it together.
I'm running a Lentech Street Terminator Plus AOD behind my 408. The AOD is rated for 800hp. The newer version of this one are good to 1000hp. To get the AOD to withstand the higher power, the multiple input shafts are changed and you end up loosing the torque converter lockup, but it's a non issue. I don't miss it.
Since it has the OD lockout switch, I converted the highbeam switch in the signal arm to operate the OD. The OD gear isn't the strongest, so keeping it out of OD is better if you are going to be playing with the gas pedal. No fumbling for a toggle switch on the dash when you are trying to control the truck.
It's an automatic valve body and shifts great as well manually. Lentech also has a manual valve body with OD lockout and trans brake.
If you are building an AOD, it's best to use a later version case. It has 5 ribs on the case, where the bell housing meets the body. Older cases only have 3 ribs.
Johnny Lightning has been running a Lentech 4R70W in his 7 sec Lightning with 1800hp and has pretty much maxed out what one of these trannys will take. Lentech Automatics-AOD Home
i'm going to use that shop my dad grew up with them they started their business inside our shop if it blows up i'm sure they will cover the cost or replacing it. they are basically family
i like how the converter locks up, i have a 3500 stall on mine right now and i love it but like how it locks up in 3rd i don't even use overdrive
and the 4r70w gear set is to use is that a stock one or a aftermarket one
I've never been at the track. Just playing on the backroads. The G-Tech shows 13.8 in the quarter at 100mph.
1966Tbird, they are the stock gear set. They have a lower 1st gear.
13.8 Thats good !!! I have never had a AOD all my stangs were 5sp... But a lot of the AOD stang guys are using the gear set out of the 4R70W..with shift kit ...I got alot of info from lentec ...There tec guys are great Im running 302 HO with...4R70W...