help with fifth wheel 90° turns
#16
if making a right turn start from the very left shoulder. Get the the whole truck and trailer on the left shoulder. then go straight, hold off turning until the back side off the passenger door is past the driveway. now turn the wheel full lock and go as far as can, you shouldn't actually be able to make the corner if you do it right. you go as far as you can then turn wheel left and back up, then turn wheel right and continue around corner. this should tighten up your turning radius enough to get around the corner.
#18
N2, I think you finally made it click. A bud of mine tried to explain it, but I guess I am getting denser with age. I get what you are saying.
I extended my culvert another 3 feet, and yanked the last fence post. That, and your trick should do it. I will try getting the rig out Tuesday evening and see how it works.
This site is awesome!
I extended my culvert another 3 feet, and yanked the last fence post. That, and your trick should do it. I will try getting the rig out Tuesday evening and see how it works.
This site is awesome!
Last edited by mphymel; 02-01-2009 at 08:51 PM. Reason: typo
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#20
Just to follow up, I got the camper out the drive, with a few inches to spare, got back in OK too. We took it out on a short trip, but ended up overdoing the transmission trying to back uphill into a spot at the campground.
Apparently the Fseries will dump a bit of oil when the trans is overworked. I let it cool, and added fluid, then she pulled again.
I do plan on having the transmission looked at. Someone mentioned that there is an aftermarket torque converter made for hard pulling, I might be down for that!!
Thanks again for all the help! I got a few good lessons in pulling from the bed. The key point is understanding that you can adjust the truck\trailer angle greatly with only a slight fore/aft movement of the trailer. That becomes the key to positioning your trailer.
I feel a lot less intimidated than I did a week ago!!
Apparently the Fseries will dump a bit of oil when the trans is overworked. I let it cool, and added fluid, then she pulled again.
I do plan on having the transmission looked at. Someone mentioned that there is an aftermarket torque converter made for hard pulling, I might be down for that!!
Thanks again for all the help! I got a few good lessons in pulling from the bed. The key point is understanding that you can adjust the truck\trailer angle greatly with only a slight fore/aft movement of the trailer. That becomes the key to positioning your trailer.
I feel a lot less intimidated than I did a week ago!!
#21
When you're backing uphill like that, if it's in a straight line, use 4WD low. It'll cause a lot less stress on the tranny. If you've got the manual t-case and hubs, leave the hubs unlocked and shift the t-case into 4-low. This will effectively put you into 2WD low and will be much easier on the tranny. There's also a way of disconnecting the wires from the pulse vacuum solenoid in the engine compartment. Here's a link describing it:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...l-2wd-low.html
Just some food for thought but it WILL be easier on your tranny when backing up steep inclines, etc.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...l-2wd-low.html
Just some food for thought but it WILL be easier on your tranny when backing up steep inclines, etc.
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Remember if you back in you will have to pull out so the "tighter turn" backing really is no help. I found this out when I backed a Kenworth with a 48' freight trailer into my one lane driveway off a narrow country road much like you have only narrower, no berm, ditches on both sides. Got in with no problem, getting out I ran across 15' or so of yard off the driveway.
The thing that will really help is to widen the apron on the driveway. My Father-in-Law's house has a 300' or so narrow one lane gravel drive and he had to widen his apron to get a 33' motor home in and out.
Driving a truck if you are backing in a tight spot it helps to get the trailer backed in something like THIS then pull straight forward and straighten everything out like THIS ONE then back straight in. With a bit of practice you would be surprised how small and tight a spot you can get backed into. I would have drivers looking and laughing until I pulled forward and they saw how it worked and realized I did it on purpose.
The thing that will really help is to widen the apron on the driveway. My Father-in-Law's house has a 300' or so narrow one lane gravel drive and he had to widen his apron to get a 33' motor home in and out.
Driving a truck if you are backing in a tight spot it helps to get the trailer backed in something like THIS then pull straight forward and straighten everything out like THIS ONE then back straight in. With a bit of practice you would be surprised how small and tight a spot you can get backed into. I would have drivers looking and laughing until I pulled forward and they saw how it worked and realized I did it on purpose.
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Actually if you have the room beside the driveway for trailer overhang the goal is to be centered when you "snap" the rig straight pulling forward so you will have your drive axle on one side and the trailer and steering axle on the other side of the driveway. When you pull forward the steer axle will be turned toward the center, the drive axle will follow toward the center from the other side and the trailer will do so as well.
All this positioning is why those around you will swear you are all messed up UNTIL you pull forward and the rig is perfectly positioned to go into place.
All this positioning is why those around you will swear you are all messed up UNTIL you pull forward and the rig is perfectly positioned to go into place.
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