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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:54 PM
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Fuel Gelling Problems

Alright.. Had a 2001 F-250 w/ a banks stinger kit gel up on me today.

The other truck running fine was a bone stock 2003 F-250.

Any mechanical issues that I should look into as to why one gelled up and the other was fine?

Checked Fuel Filter and it was fine.

On the plus side the Ford Dealership got it up and running for only $30.

Thanks fellas.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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It could be as simple as fuel from a different station or some moisture in the fuel that froze up. Mine gelled the other day, but only enough that I couldn't rev it much above idle. Sitting for a few minutes warmed everything up enough to run. Whats the weather like where you are?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 12:51 AM
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It was like 22-27 degrees...nothing too cold
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 03:43 AM
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this new fuel seems to gell faster..always treat every tank with white bottle DK in the winter and keep the tank full...pick up a bottle of diesel 911 and a spair filter.. the 911 you can get at wally world..if you gell up again.. dump the 911 in the tank and a little in the bowl..this will save you time and the 30 bucks the dealer took from you...if i was you..i would change your filter out now..if it started to gell..it wont be long the filter will start to wax up...
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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Ron, the scary thing is that my fuel gelled up around 0 degrees and I was using 32oz of white dk in that tank.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Has anyone in your really cold climates ever thought of using a type of heat tape on their fuel tanks ?? Maybe tapping into the engine block heater cord and a non friction blanket per say around the tank ?? They got them on RV,s to keep the holding tanks from freezing and all it is, heat tape strips.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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The other week when it was doing - temps for highs and -16 or lower for lows (actual temps), I went and threw a bottle of 911 in before driving home from work on the coldest night just to be sure. Didn't have any problems, even sitting all day, but took care to keep out of the wind and let the GP run for a while. Earlier in the winter I found out the hard way the my GPR wasn't working, but all taken care of now.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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Ron, the scary thing is that my fuel gelled up around 0 degrees and I was using 32oz of white dk in that tank.

What was the temp. when you added the fuel additive. If the fuel had already reached its cloud point before you added the treatment then it was useless.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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I probably should explain that a little better. The anti-gel additives do not come into play until the fuel reaches its cloud point. The additive surround the wax crystals as soon as they start to form. They keep the wax crystals from growing and combining with other wax crystals, thus lowing the Cold Filter Plugging Poing. Which is the point at which the fuel remains a liquid. If the additive was added after the cloud piont was reached the it did nothing for the CFPP.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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the trick is to use the right amount of DK for every gal. of fuel you put in and keep your tank as full as you can at all times....this should be done for every tank when the temps start to drop and be done till it warms back up..up here temps drop to 0 or bellow at night around December and will stay there till end of February..I will change my filter and start to use DK in every tank of fuel I put in..between my truck and the 18 years of driving tractor trailer..I only froze up twice..it was 50 bellow with out the wind and I was at 75 MPH on the big road..our normal cold is around 30 bellow for two or thee weeks...I dumped in a bottle of 911 changed the filters..she started and I drove on...when things start to warm during the day then cool off at night then you are getting moisture in your tank..the less fuel you have..the more space moisture can grow..that's just sitting there..you also have heated fuel in the return line going back to that tank when the truck is running and cooling back off when you shut her down....that makes even more moisture...
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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Use Howes, Powerservice Gells.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by big poppa pump
Has anyone in your really cold climates ever thought of using a type of heat tape on their fuel tanks ?? Maybe tapping into the engine block heater cord and a non friction blanket per say around the tank ?? They got them on RV,s to keep the holding tanks from freezing and all it is, heat tape strips.
IMO, the lines from the tank to bowl, bowl, and lines from bowl to heads will jell before tank fuel.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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IMO, the lines from the tank to bowl, bowl, and lines from bowl to heads will jell before tank fuel.
Gotya, didn't think of that.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Thanks. Although I don't take credit for that thought. I've seen it posted here before and it made sense.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Your passin it on brother, i thank you for that
 
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