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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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I think I found an Excursion

Hey everyone, we have been looking, and I think I found one. What do I need to do to have a "Oasis Report" done on it? It is a 2001, Limited 4x4 (looks just like my old one I use to have). There is 61,519 miles on it. I have the VIN# if someone can let me know on what I need to do to make sure it is a good one.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Powertrain specs?

Post you VIN in the thread that is stickied on top of the Super Duty forum. It is a OASIS request thread.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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Thank you, I have posted the info....

Powertrain info: Limited, V10, 4 SP automatic w/overdrive, 4Wheel Drive. That is all we know right now.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TSM GIRL
Thank you, I have posted the info....

Powertrain info: Limited, V10, 4 SP automatic w/overdrive, 4Wheel Drive. That is all we know right now.
We in here need to know more info. about your needs. We might want to recommend a diesel. If you are going to drive more than 20,000 mi. per year, AND pull EXTREMELY heavy loads, AND can not stand it emotionally to see other people pull ahead of you on long upgrades, you need a diesel - forget the V-10. No way can it keep up with a diesel when pulling heavy loads up long up-grades.

There is another big dis-advantage to the V-10 compared to a diesel. Trouble with the V-10 is, if you have a bad starter and/or bad battery, and/or have a need to impress folks with your bad manners, and thus must leave your motor running when running into fast food stores or when you get fuel - forget about the V-10 - leave that running and no-one will notice; if you need all the noise and clatter, by all means forget that gasser and get a diesel.

Oh - do you live in cold climates? Seriously, the fact is diesels are SO much more efficient than the V-10 gasser, they wont warm up anywhere near as fast. My V-10, provides HOT air from both front and rear heating ducts, within 5 minutes of engine start. In really cold weather, a diesel-powered vehicle might NEVER provide really HOT air from its heater.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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We in here need to know more info. about your needs. We might want to recommend a diesel. If you are going to drive more than 20,000 mi. per year, AND pull EXTREMELY heavy loads, AND can not stand it emotionally to see other people pull ahead of you on long upgrades, you need a diesel - forget the V-10. No way can it keep up with a diesel when pulling heavy loads up long up-grades.

There is another big dis-advantage to the V-10 compared to a diesel. Trouble with the V-10 is, if you have a bad starter and/or bad battery, and/or have a need to impress folks with your bad manners, and thus must leave your motor running when running into fast food stores or when you get fuel - forget about the V-10 - leave that running and no-one will notice; if you need all the noise and clatter, by all means forget that gasser and get a diesel.

Oh - do you live in cold climates? Seriously, the fact is diesels are SO much more efficient than the V-10 gasser, they wont warm up anywhere near as fast. My V-10, provides HOT air from both front and rear heating ducts, within 5 minutes of engine start. In really cold weather, a diesel-powered vehicle might NEVER provide really HOT air from its heater.
Well, we are in a cold climate as of this week. (lol) We haul race Cars and ATV's and we are thinking about a nice boat also. I would love to have a diesel, but there is nothing out there that I can find. We had a 2001 EX V-10 which was good, and I loved it (sorry we got rid of it). I drive more then 20,000. We have family in Chicago, and we are in the south. So we drive to Illinois a few times a year. Also, I am driving the kids all over town between sports, school etc. So yeah, lots a miles per year.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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get a diesel. supe it up. haul the racecar to the track and race both.

GO BANKS!!!!!
 
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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In really cold weather, a diesel-powered vehicle might NEVER provide really HOT air from its heater.
Anyone know why that is? I left my truck on for 15 minutes this morning, and it was still cool in the cabin. And it was only 30* outside.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 12:00 AM
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Diesels run cooler at an idle. If you idle that truck (and especially in the cold snap the Mainland has been having) it'll never reach operating temps. Maybe if you use a grille cover but otherwise no.

This is one of the main reasons why diesels aren't necessarily the best choice for folks in the cold areas of the country who would just use it as a run about. Just the 15 quarts of oil alone takes a LOT of heat to get up past 212* needed to boil off the condensation collected the night before.
 
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Originally Posted by BigRy
Anyone know why that is? I left my truck on for 15 minutes this morning, and it was still cool in the cabin. And it was only 30* outside.
This is off topic, 2-5 minutes of idling and another 5 of steady drivng will get you some serious heat in the cabin. The engine first has to warm up and keep warming up as you drive before it can keep you warm.

Checkout this thread:https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...er-months.html
Especially this post: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...7&postcount=15
 
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 12:33 AM
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Glad to see another Buick racer here!

Since you live in a warmer climate and have a heavy car to tow I would go with a diesel if you have a choice. I towed with my 7.3PSD Excursion from PA to OH for the BPG nats last year and had no issues, pulled like the car was not on the back at all up and down the mountains, and the trailer is heavy (2200 lbs), so combined the load was around 6000 lbs plus other gear which was prob a couple hundred lbs extra.

Steve Roytos
 
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:18 AM
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Plus a diesel sounds badass. 7.3 FTW.
 
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Originally Posted by Screamin6
Glad to see another Buick racer here!

Since you live in a warmer climate and have a heavy car to tow I would go with a diesel if you have a choice. I towed with my 7.3PSD Excursion from PA to OH for the BPG nats last year and had no issues, pulled like the car was not on the back at all up and down the mountains, and the trailer is heavy (2200 lbs), so combined the load was around 6000 lbs plus other gear which was prob a couple hundred lbs extra.

Steve Roytos

Steve, are you on ANY of the buick boards like me?? Also, are you going to the NATS this year? We are.

***Back on subject** Would love a Diesel, can't find a decent one. Just rec the "Oasis Report".
 
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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I am on tubobuick.com and turbobuicks.com. Not going to the Nats as therre are too many politics with that one, but going to either Norwalk or BPG this year. (Hopefully). Have to figure out if I have an exhaust leak / header crack or a blown head gasket. No water in the oil so I am hoping it is at the header. Plus I need to figure out why my car is a dog lately.

Check out Autotrader, and have patience. You WILL find a good price on a good diesel 4X4, eventually.

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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TSM GIRL
Hey everyone, we have been looking, and I think I found one. What do I need to do to have a "Oasis Report" done on it? It is a 2001, Limited 4x4 (looks just like my old one I use to have). There is 61,519 miles on it. I have the VIN# if someone can let me know on what I need to do to make sure it is a good one.
Depending on the price, it sure sounds like a good vehicle. Frankly, in today's market and with the higher price of diesel fuel and engine, there's no good financial reason to pay the extra cost for a diesel unless you're going to do a lot of heavy towing or over the road driving or you just plain want one as a personal preference.

I love my diesels and have paid for the diesel option on my 2000 E350 over three times now, but I ordered it new in a time when diesel fuel was cheaper and the diesel option when purchasing at a commercial rate was about $4000.

The V10 is a pulling brute and is a well proven platform. If the deal's right on the one you're looking at, then I'd jump on it.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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There is another big dis-advantage to the V-10 compared to a diesel. Trouble with the V-10 is, if you have a bad starter and/or bad battery, and/or have a need to impress folks with your bad manners, and thus must leave your motor running when running into fast food stores or when you get fuel - forget about the V-10 - leave that running and no-one will notice; if you need all the noise and clatter, by all means forget that gasser and get a diesel.
You know Pete, since you've started getting off on this kick a couple of months ago, I've made it a point to observe vehicles at the local Speedway gas station, grocery and fast food places. I've probably seen at least 100 gas vehicles idling and have yet to see anyone leaving a light diesel truck idling.

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Oh - do you live in cold climates? Seriously, the fact is diesels are SO much more efficient than the V-10 gasser, they wont warm up anywhere near as fast. My V-10, provides HOT air from both front and rear heating ducts, within 5 minutes of engine start. In really cold weather, a diesel-powered vehicle might NEVER provide really HOT air from its heater.
You're off the mark on this one too. We were sub-zero here yesterday and I had heat after five minutes and was turning it down after 10 minutes.

I think she's looking for good advice from us, not petty sarcasm.
 
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