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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Block heater without plugging in

Got a question for the pros here. I have a 03 with a 7.3. I plug in at night if it's going to be under 20's or so, makes the starts a bit better. The next couple days are going to be around 6-8 degrees during the day. I'll be at work, and no place at all to plug in. Has anyone here ever set up a battery / inverter and hooked it up to the block heater? Any idea what size stuff I'd need? I think the block heater is 1000w, not 100% sure though. I searched and found someone who made a suggestion of doing this, but no details and I didn't see anything after that saying if he went through with it.

Could I just use a jump box or battery, hooked up to a 1500w inverter, then a timer set for a couple hours before I leave work and plug it into that?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BansheeBoy
Got a question for the pros here. I have a 03 with a 7.3. I plug in at night if it's going to be under 20's or so, makes the starts a bit better. The next couple days are going to be around 6-8 degrees during the day. I'll be at work, and no place at all to plug in. Has anyone here ever set up a battery / inverter and hooked it up to the block heater? Any idea what size stuff I'd need? I think the block heater is 1000w, not 100% sure though. I searched and found someone who made a suggestion of doing this, but no details and I didn't see anything after that saying if he went through with it.

Could I just use a jump box or battery, hooked up to a 1500w inverter, then a timer set for a couple hours before I leave work and plug it into that?
I would say it is doable ,but probably not worth the extra cost and effort..

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Why not take a few minutes and joine the MA chapter.. You can do so by clicking on the link in my sig..
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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On a side note Chris..

Why not take a few minutes and joine the MA chapter.. You can do so by clicking on the link in my sig..
Why not - I'm in. Thanks for the invite. Been meaning to do it for a while, but like others, I need a kick in the pants to get things done sometimes lol

I've got an inverter and battery hanging around, maybe I'll play around with it this weekend.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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What is the amp-hour rating of your batteries?

How many batteries do you have?

From that information, you can figure out how many "watts" of heat you have stored.

If that heat goes into heating the engine, how much will be left for starting?

There's a reason that Ford didn't just make a 12-volt block heater available.

Wanna ' guess what it is?

(Hint: Think capacity)

Pop
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Not going to use the truck batteries, I agree that will leave me dead pretty quick . I'll just use a deep cycle off the boat that's in winter storage anyways. I'll check what the amp hr is on it.

I was thinking of a winter set up - mount the battery / inverter under the truck and set a timer on the inverter to go on at 2 PM or so. Then just wire a battery tender to it and use it to keep the battery topped off when I get home. I don't have a spare battery tender though, that's the only thing I'd need to buy, and some battery cable. I know you can get single bank trickle chargers really cheap, just not sure if they are weather proof though.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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If you're running 5w40 synthetic motor oil, you probably don't need to worry about it to begin with. Just run the GP's through two cycles before firing her off.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Maybe I should switch over to synthetic...I've used it in bikes and quads, that kind of stuff, never in my vehicles though. I've seen a ton of posts from others saying the same thing, makes a huge difference in the cold start ups. Seems a heck of a lot easier that all that fabing and stuff. Subconsciously I must be looking for a weekend project!
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Just run the GP's through two cycles before firing her off.
How do you do that?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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How do you do that?
Turn key to on (not start) and let it sit for 2 minutes or so. Shut key off, turn back on, wait 2 minutes. Hit the starter.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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Turn key to on (not start) and let it sit for 2 minutes or so. Shut key off, turn back on, wait 2 minutes. Hit the starter.
Yep... that's the ticket. This double-dose on the GP's gives your system more time to heat up the combustion chamber components. Is this really necessary? Nope. But if you think about it, there is an awful lot of mass around the combustion chamber, and having it all heated up helps, and when it's really, REALLY cold outside, it takes longer to heat up all that mass. Can't hurt anything excet for also creating a little more short term load on your batteries. The only time you may not want to do this is if your batteries are already weak and sluggish.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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The trick is in the waiting... don't try to start it too soon or you'll just run the batteries down cranking. In really cold weather, 3-4 cycles may even work better than 2.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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The trick is in the waiting... don't try to start it too soon or you'll just run the batteries down cranking. In really cold weather, 3-4 cycles may even work better than 2.
Yet one more benefit of having installed the GPR LED mod!
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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I need to do that... can't seem to find the orange LED anywhere near by, may have to settle for red.
 
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I cycle it 2 or 3 times as well. I did it a week or 2 ago with my buddy in the truck and he told me it's a good way to but out the glow plugs. I've done it quite a bit with no issues at all, and I've never seen anything here about it being an issue. He said on his tractors, it's a no no. He's got a couple Deere's and a Kubota if I remember correctly.

Any one else ever hear anything about it being bad? I think he's off his rocker...
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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I would allmost bet running an inverter would drain you battery before you could get in there and start the truck
 
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