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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Beechkid: And this 300 powered car is still racing http://www.inliners.org/race/race11.html but it is not in a stock 92 4x4 truck with an EFI 300 looking for embarrassment in public.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by oregonf-150
I have a 92 150 EFI 4x4 with an intake and exhaust. no headers. and i want to beat the chev 350 of the line. any suggestions?

Crank your wheel hard and side-swipe 'em!!!

That's really the only way to beat one, do the "fish-tail manuever" they show on the police chase videos. Unless he's a lot faster and and pulls away before you can hit him, and end up in a ditch feeling silly

My friend has got a mid 80's K2500 4x4, and the engines a newer stock FI 305 with almost 200K miles, and can beat me all day long from start to finish, in my lighter F-150 flareside 4x, and I gotta 300-6 with a tad under 50k miles. Mine's a 5-speed and his is a 4.

We both have freer flowing intakes and exhaust as well.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by waynaferd
Crank your wheel hard and side-swipe 'em!!!

That's really the only way to beat one, do the "fish-tail manuever" they show on the police chase videos. Unless he's a lot faster and and pulls away before you can hit him, and end up in a ditch feeling silly

My friend has got a mid 80's K2500 4x4, and the engines a newer stock FI 305 with almost 200K miles, and can beat me all day long from start to finish, in my lighter F-150 flareside 4x, and I gotta 300-6 with a tad under 50k miles. Mine's a 5-speed and his is a 4.

We both have freer flowing intakes and exhaust as well.
In your defense, you are under-geared.

The 305 is a dog. 140 Hp, 240 ft lbs. Unknown how much the EFI makes.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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You Need

1. A magic Wand
2. Fairy God Mother to waive it.


3. It is a TRUCK engine. And a good one for a truck. My MERCRUISER 3.7L (224cu in) 4 CYLINDER stern drive puts out more HP (200) than the 300 does.
I like my 300 as a truck, but throwing money into the engine just to add some possible extra HP (its an efi) is not going to work. If you want to throw buckets of money at the engine you "might" beat a V-8 but the truck will be undriveable on the street as a daily driver. The older engines benefit from the bolt ons but not the EFI computer controlled engines.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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You'll beat it in the long run. You won't be smoking and burning oil by 150,000 miles like a 350.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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You'll beat it in the long run. You won't be smoking and burning oil by 150,000 miles like a 350.
yeah when your truck is 50 and still runs like new and hes been through 93.2 v8s youll know who won

IMHO a 300 CAN be on hell of a racing/performance motor with the knowledge and most of all massive mounts of CASH! but so can a briggs and stratton lawn tractor engine

the 300 is made to move mountains not drag race...its a real truck motor a stock 300 can outpull most v8s and even waste some of em off the line but once you crack what 1200-1500 rpm it goes downhill fast
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by stractor
You Need

1. A magic Wand
2. Fairy God Mother to waive it.


3. It is a TRUCK engine. And a good one for a truck. My MERCRUISER 3.7L (224cu in) 4 CYLINDER stern drive puts out more HP (200) than the 300 does.
I like my 300 as a truck, but throwing money into the engine just to add some possible extra HP (its an efi) is not going to work. If you want to throw buckets of money at the engine you "might" beat a V-8 but the truck will be undriveable on the street as a daily driver.
agreed...

Originally Posted by stractor
The older engines benefit from the bolt ons but not the EFI computer controlled engines.
did you mean the older vs newer 300s, or all carbd vs efi engines? I was going to say, if you meant any efi engine that that is complete and utter nonsense. However, seeing as how MAF 300s are so rare, then yeah, the speed density 300s are fairly quirky when you move away from stock.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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5.0 Torx --I was referring to carbureted verses EFI, the statement says "EFI computer controlled engines"
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by stractor
5.0 Torx --I was referring to carbureted verses EFI, the statement says "EFI computer controlled engines"
ok, ill take that as "any engine ever (not "only 300s") that has a ecu rather than a carb" and therefor you are completely wrong. EFI offers A/F ratio control a carb can only dream of. that means MORE power, drivability, and better gas mileage and emissions. Do you not want any of those?

You might venture into researching MAF fuel injection. SD has its downfalls, for sure. But its not like carbs never need to be adjusted. or replaced. or cleaned. or rebuilt.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 12:24 AM
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Wrong again--I was talking about the early carbed 300's , that benefit from some of the bolt on modifications--nuff said.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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To actually beat it with the EFI300, you should drop the gearing to like 4.11 or 4.56. Keep it taylored to stoplite runs that have a speed limit under 55. Not that street racing is ok. I actually got a "speed racing/ exhibition of acceleration" ticket from an OR State Trooper for doing just that. Except, that was in a 77 Dodge van, but that's its own story.
I bought my 67 for $900 with a bone stock 300. I added the ignition, 4V carb, intake, header, and longer rocker arms. It's not a speed demon, but runs great, power is from idle to 3600, and has reasonable mpg. It's a daily driver that has the power a truck of that size should have. Here's my nephew's 300 on youtube. It has a lot of kash in it, but can also hang with a new Dodge Cummins. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xgYd2u79NU
It does beat V8s on a regular basis.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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to whoever said a 300 cant pull or win a drag against v8's, sorry but your wrong. i have pulled 350's and 305's, as well as 302's and a 318. granted my 351 will pull my 300 around as im sure a 360 can(never tried a 360) i have beaten a 302 in a light to light race, and both trucks were relatively stock. i have won against a 305 alos. but the biggest thing in any race, pull or any real competition is the performer. the 302 i beat, missed his shift to third, and we were door to door up to that point. the 305 smoked the tires at the line and i got a clean jump. if someone cant drive, then you will more than likely win any competion unless you are extremely outclassed. the next big thing is tires, suspension, gears and drivetrain. a buddy of mines 350 pulled me on blacktop, but i pulled him in mud and dirt cuz i had better mt tires and better gears. now the OP asked how he could beat a 350, it can be done. a couple of ppl on here have put turbos on their 300's. betcha i would know who would win that drag race. all im saying is it can be done. so if anyone has helpful information, say it. otherwise just keep your mouths shut
 
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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No offense, but that 300 will not beat my 302 in a race. RACE talk only... which isn't important in trucks. But, believe me... u raced a POS 302.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Freaksh0w
No offense, but that 300 will not beat my 302 in a race. RACE talk only... which isn't important in trucks. But, believe me... u raced a POS 302.
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actually a 300 is more likely to walk a 302 for a bit until the 302 hits its powerband...

now what if you were to modify the powerband of the 300...in drag racing its all about useful rpms that why the 300 is not considered a racer it like low rpms where the 302 like all other v8s like higher rpms...but if you could somehow make the 300s powerband match that of the 302 or extend the useful rpm range of 300 to the same as the 302 the 300 would fry it...because it already like low rpms and has plenty of torque...since the 300 can and will get a better start then the 302 if the 300 could maintain its performance up till the higher rpm of a 302 it would waste it cause the key to a win in a drag race is get a better start then the other guy
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Freaksh0w
No offense, but that 300 will not beat my 302 in a race. RACE talk only... which isn't important in trucks. But, believe me... u raced a POS 302.
That is exactly what I was thinking.

I haven't won many races with my 300. I started to beat what looked like a POS 4x4 Taco, but had to slam on the breaks due to a rouge child walking into the street.
 
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