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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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351w flywheel

Since I put my rebuilt motor in, it seems a little rough at idle. I dissmissed it as a liitle cam lope(rv cam), but I am finding conflicting info on the flywheel. The block I rebuilt has a 2 piece rear seal and I reused the flex plate from my old one piece motor. Autozone shows the same flex plate for 82 and 86, but different rear mains(1 piece/2 piece) Summit racing shows one for internal balance with 2 piece rear and external with 1 piece.WTH!!
Flexplates - summitracing.com
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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Your engine is external balance unless you spent a lot a money having it rebalanced for internal. I believe the 351s stayed 28 oz external through the 80s and then 50 oz external in 90 something. I can't remember the year for sure I don't usually play with newer windsors. Did you check your harmonic balancer? If you have the wrong flywheel it will shake the engine pretty hard as you accelerate.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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I bought a used 351w from an 86 e350 to rebuild, but it was a napa reman that had a few miles on it. I did new rod/main bearings, rings/hone D0oe heads rv cam dual plane intake, but apparently it was an older block (its a 2 piece rear main). I used the balancer that came on the used engine, and the flex plate from my worn out, newer block (1 piece rear). It runs pretty good power wise, just a little rough at idle. Like I said it just seems a little shaky ay idle, not sure if the little bit of cam I put in would be even noticeable as far as a lope goes. Its an edelbrock low end cam, dont remember the specs. Can anyone explain why summit shows different flexplates for 1 & 2 piece rear seals?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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What year was your newer engine?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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when looking up up rear main seals shows 2 piece from 69-83 and 1 piece from 83-97 and as a example one of the tci (pt#52920) flexplates for 28 oz external fits from 69-88 351w
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 09:41 PM
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I ASSume it is the oe 86 engine I pulled, not sure on the "new" one thats in there now but it has a 2 piece rear, so its an older block. (kinda confusing, my new engine is older than my old engine)
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Did you ever look at the casting numbers on both blocks? that will tell you the years they are but it doesn't sound like the flywheel is a problem.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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All production 351W/5.8 engines are balanced at 28 oz-in. Probably the difference in the flexplates is to match up to different torque convertors or different number ring gear teeth etc.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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never checked casting #'s , TCI's listing conflicts with autozone wich conflicts with summit. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 1dieselman
when looking up up rear main seals shows 2 piece from 69-83 and 1 piece from 83-97 and as a example one of the tci (pt#52920) flexplates for 28 oz external fits from 69-88 351w
2 piece before 7/11/83 / 1 piece after 7/11/83.

D1ZZ6375A .. Flexplate: 1980 / 1982/89.

EOAZ6375A .. Flexplate: 1981
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
2 piece before 7/11/83 / 1 piece after 7/11/83.

D1ZZ6375A .. Flexplate: 1980 / 1982/89.

EOAZ6375A .. Flexplate: 1981
So why did Ford have a different pt# for 81? All the aftermarket including Ford Racing shows same flexplate fitment depending on 157/164 tooth and converter
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 1dieselman
So why did Ford have a different pt# for 81? All the aftermarket including Ford Racing shows same flexplate fitment depending on 157/164 tooth and converter
EOAZ6375A .. Flexplate

Parts catalog sez for 1981 Econolines sold new in CA.

It also says 1981 F150/350, but makes no mention of CA.
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And...5 DIFFERENT Harmonic balancers 1980/89!

1980: D2AZ6316A / Parts catalogs do not list ID number, only the dimensions: 6 3/8" O.D. / 4 1/8" long

1981/83: E1TZ6316A / With EEC / Marked: E1TE-CA

1981/83: E2TZ6316A / Without EEC / Marked: E1TE-DA > > replaced by > > E4TZ6316B

1984/87: E4TZ6316B / Parts catalog doesn't list ID number.

1988/89: E8TZ6316A / Marked: E8TE-AA

This jazz was typed directly from the 1980/89 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog.

Dimensions for D2AZ6316A were taken from the 1965/72 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalog.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Hhhmmm, that's a head scratcher I guess Ca just wanted to be different that year.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 1dieselman
Hhhmmm, that's a head scratcher I guess Ca just wanted to be different that year.
Emissions regs here are the strictest of any state, it's been that way since 1961.

Note the added harmonic balancer info above.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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I see, I knew they had a couple thicknesses of harmonic balances. So do you get headaches from all those numbers?
 
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