3v V-10 owners
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After owning 2 different 7.3L for last 10 years, ( i know its not the same as 6.4L) but I have been very pleased with the 3V V10. Towing with the diesel I got 10-11 mpg, the V10 gets 8-9 mpg. Hwy with diesel got 15-16 mpg , V10 is 12-13 mpg. We have 3 different trailers we tow, 36' 5th wheel camper, 10k equipment trailer and 16' enclosed trailer .... the V10 pulls all of them just fine loaded.
There are some good deals out there right now on used V10's so take advantage of it...
Mike
There are some good deals out there right now on used V10's so take advantage of it...
Mike
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I have both the V-10 and the 6.4 PSD, the V-10 is the less expensive way to go. Both in initial cost to purchase and in cost per mile to maintain and operate. The exception would be if you are towing an extreemly heavy load many, many miles per year....then the 6.4 may be of an advantage. However the break even point would not be seen for a number of years.....if ever.
So as to the question of MPG in comparision of a V10 gas VS. a 6.4 PSD, in most cases the diesel will get higher MPG. But MPG is a small part of the over-all equation of cost to operate. The V10 has never been a motor to purchase if you anyone is interested in seeing excellent, good or even fair mileage. It is however a bargain priced option if someone is looking for an excellent powerplant under the hood of a real truck. She don't ask for much more than gas and some regular inexpensive maintance.
So as to the question of MPG in comparision of a V10 gas VS. a 6.4 PSD, in most cases the diesel will get higher MPG. But MPG is a small part of the over-all equation of cost to operate. The V10 has never been a motor to purchase if you anyone is interested in seeing excellent, good or even fair mileage. It is however a bargain priced option if someone is looking for an excellent powerplant under the hood of a real truck. She don't ask for much more than gas and some regular inexpensive maintance.
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I agree with all these guys. I get what everyone else gets, 9mpg towing 10k, 12-13 daily driving averaging 75 highway. Better if I drove slower... ya right...
If you tow more than 12k regularly or are a high mileage driver, the 6.4 could be the way to go. Ford has has 6500 off on the PSD. Not sure it's still active if your looking for new.
Low mileage or no towing, 6.8 is usually better due to the time it takes to get the $$$ back from initial cost, higher gas prices and higher maintenance cost of a PSD.
Then again, I've just reiterated what everyone else has already said...
Guys I know with the 6.4 that tow, love it, hate the mileage though which is about the same towing as the 6.8 and they have 200 more ft lbs tq! I wouldn't complain if I got the same mileage and had an extra 200 ft lbs tq!!!
If you tow more than 12k regularly or are a high mileage driver, the 6.4 could be the way to go. Ford has has 6500 off on the PSD. Not sure it's still active if your looking for new.
Low mileage or no towing, 6.8 is usually better due to the time it takes to get the $$$ back from initial cost, higher gas prices and higher maintenance cost of a PSD.
Then again, I've just reiterated what everyone else has already said...
Guys I know with the 6.4 that tow, love it, hate the mileage though which is about the same towing as the 6.8 and they have 200 more ft lbs tq! I wouldn't complain if I got the same mileage and had an extra 200 ft lbs tq!!!
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Maybe I'm wrong, but here's my take on the torque thing, since Ford switched to 3.55 gears in the diesel (but of course you can get 3.73...I think).
Torque x gearing:
457*4.30 = 1965
650*3.55 = 2307
So, based on gearing, it would seem the 6.8L can have 85% of the torque of the 6.4L diesel. It's important to option the vehicle for what you're doing.
Torque x gearing:
457*4.30 = 1965
650*3.55 = 2307
So, based on gearing, it would seem the 6.8L can have 85% of the torque of the 6.4L diesel. It's important to option the vehicle for what you're doing.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but here's my take on the torque thing, since Ford switched to 3.55 gears in the diesel (but of course you can get 3.73...I think).
Torque x gearing:
457*4.30 = 1965
650*3.55 = 2307
So, based on gearing, it would seem the 6.8L can have 85% of the torque of the 6.4L diesel. It's important to option the vehicle for what you're doing.
Torque x gearing:
457*4.30 = 1965
650*3.55 = 2307
So, based on gearing, it would seem the 6.8L can have 85% of the torque of the 6.4L diesel. It's important to option the vehicle for what you're doing.
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Yeah Sid, I didn't include all the variables, in order for most to "get it" (not that everyone can't). I spent some time "arguing" the point with some diesel "fanatics" and they either couldn't or wouldn't get it, so I was trying to keep it simple. If you can't post the article, PM me with it or the link. Thanks.
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I will give you a little bit different perspective than others. I love the Ford pickups and I owned a 2006 V10 with all the bells and Whistles. I loved that truck. I loved the transmission, the engine, the way it handled, and the way it handled with a load on. I hated the mileage. The best I could get was 12 on the freeway and 10 around town. My dad is retired and he owns a dodge. He pulls a 5th wheel down to Arizona every winter. He kept rubbing in his mileage. We ended up taking a trip to Moab together. He pulled his trailer with jeep in flat two behind. I towed my full size bronco on a car trailer. He got 10 mpg and I got 6 mpg. We didn't get weights, but he was obviously heavier than me. It just killed me so I decided to trade to a Cummins. I ended up going older and getting a one ton 2003 with 4.10 gears. My mileage went up to 18 on the freeway and 16 around town. I ended up selling the Bronco, but have made several trips to Moab with a goose neck trailer pulling two jeeps. I average 10 mpg.
So, the good and the bad. I like everything about the Ford better except the mileage and the stereo. I hate the Dodge transmission. I am sure the diesel pulls a heavy load a little better.
Was it the right move? I don't know. I know for sure if I was comparing a Ford diesel to a V10 I would choose the V10. I do love the Cummins.
So, the good and the bad. I like everything about the Ford better except the mileage and the stereo. I hate the Dodge transmission. I am sure the diesel pulls a heavy load a little better.
Was it the right move? I don't know. I know for sure if I was comparing a Ford diesel to a V10 I would choose the V10. I do love the Cummins.
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Yeah Sid, I didn't include all the variables, in order for most to "get it" (not that everyone can't). I spent some time "arguing" the point with some diesel "s" and they either couldn't or wouldn't get it, so I was trying to keep it simple. If you can't post the article, PM me with it or the link. Thanks.
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My '08 CC long bed V10 weighs in at 9520 lbs with me in it. I get 9 maybe 10 around town. In a recent trip to Virginia Beach(i live in PA) I got 11.5 on the way down and 11.8 on the way back. It really doesn't matter to me what kind of fuel economy I get, I want a reliable truck that will get me to work everyday, tow my camper when vacationing and never have to worry about breaking down, that's what a V10 is all about, just get in and go.
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Exactly! And I don't have to worry about finding diesel in small towns, standing in it at the pump, worrying if it will jell when it hits -20, etc. Do kinda miss the pulling power with 12k in tow at 7000 ft but I'm only a few minutes behind.