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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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so i have enough money and recruited talent to make some serious mods to my 1984 250HD with a 6.9, i just need to know:

1. is it worth it to put on smoke stacks?

2. what kind of turbo should i put in that is reasonably priced and effective, and what would it do to my hp/tq?

3. if i dont put the turbo in, would it be possible to put in a 7.3 powerstroke from a scrapped mid 90's truck?

i dont want to redneck it too bad... loose parts and duct tape aint exactly what im going for
 
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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1. free flowing exhaust for sure stacks your call

2.ats banks hypermax none are cheap all are the one best single mod you can make but power depends a lot on your exhaust and other mods.

3.anything is possible just takes time and money. Prolly get better responce on this at a stroke forum.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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It is very possible to put the Powerstroke in your truck, but if you are going to do it, make sure you take every piece of wiring harness, pull the dash and take everything that you can, all the wiring and gauges if you can get them as well.

I would take every piece from the donor truck that I could to make it easier. I just put a 7.3l IDI into my truck that had a 5.8L gas. I took motor mounts, crossmember, fuel tanks, fuel lines, transmission, transmission mount, crossmember, all the underhood wiring, all the wiring behind the dash and the gauges and trim with the wts and wif lights. I also had to take drive shafts and rear end yolk to make everything easier.

When you put the diesel in place of a gas engine, it sets about 2 inches farther forward and the drive shafts will not work, and then when you try to use the diesel drive shafts the rear end yolk wouldn't work due to the larger U-joint. But I finally got it done and I am just waiting on a new starter.

If you are going with the PowerStroke just make sure to get the IDM as well as all the other computer hardware.

The manufacturers claim around a 80 Hp increasem if you were to go that route.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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thanks
ok so i think im gonna go with an ATS wastegate turbo system. but just wondering... im a die hard ford man but i do like cummins, how possible would it be to put in a cummins. not gonna do it. just want to know
 
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Cummins swaps are doable, but a lot of choices come along as well, since you have to either mate it to your trans or use a different trans, and a host of other things that come up.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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gasisforsissies,
Welcome to FTE and the IDI diesel forum.

Since the other questions have been answered I will go a bit farther into the Power Stroke question.

How good are you at wiring?

The IDI you have now is a mechanical motor.
Power Strokes are electrical motors.

Example of changes you would not suspect, the throttle on an IDI has a cable to the IP.
The Power Stroke has a rheostat mounted on the throttle pedal that goes to the computer to tell it how hard you are pressing the pedal.

Yes even the throttle pedal has to change and be wired up.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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wow yeah definately gonna go with the turbo. or maybe sell my truck and use the money to buy a powerstroke. i do love my 6.9 though. thanks for the welcome.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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oh one more question... if i put say an ats turbo system on my 6.9 what would it due to my hp/tq with a stock exhaust system? or with 5" stacks?
 
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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To get the turbo benifits you need to upgrade your exhaust.
With the right upgrades it is possible to get stroker performance without the complexities.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by starmilt
To get the turbo benifits you need to upgrade your exhaust.
With the right upgrades it is possible to get stroker performance without the complexities.
Turbo helps the power output a lot and better MPGs...
Turbo - cold air - and 4' exhuast will help...
 
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 12:34 AM
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ALSO if your going to run it hard get the bigest trans. cooler you can...
 
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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If you leave the stock exhaust on, the EGT's will be so high I would be surprised if you can make 20 more HP.

Three inch or bigger, with the right fuel and air intake setup you can get close to 50% power increase.

But that is going to take IP and injector upgrades and if you want to get everything you possibly can head studs and piston mods are also required.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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The (recruited talent) in the original post scares me but that is me.
 
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The CA in your profile, may limit how far you can go with fuel settings.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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yeah, i know a little more than jack ***** as i just jumped into the diesel world... but i like it a lot so far. the recruited talent is my cousin who is a mechanic that specializes in ford trucks. and yeah, i live in california (sucks i know) but i think ill be able to pull it off. especially since diesel doesnt have to pass smog... they simply wont know
 
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