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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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COE Spotted

While surveying in Naknek Alaska this past summer, I spotted this beast:





I don't know anything about it, but it looked like it was being used. If it was on the road system I'd love to try to bring it home and add to the fleet, but it'd probably cost a fortune to barge it back to Anchorage. Besides the COE, I saw a 68ish short wheelbase 4wd F600. No pictures of that one, though.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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That's look like a mid-late 60's C700? There are lots of them here in Colorado.....
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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Price it out. They have very good backhaul rates to Anc or Seattle.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Unimog005
That's look like a mid-late 60's C700? There are lots of them here in Colorado.....
1957/91 C Series trucks look identical with one exception.

1958/60's have dual headlights.

C (gas) & CT (diesel) Series COE's: 500 thru 1100.

All the F600 4WD's Ford sold thru 1972 were Marmon-Herrington conversions.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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There's one (a 1966, I think) out here that I asked the owner about once....he said something or another about the engines (or was it trannies?) in these being somewhat "disposable" and hard to repair/find parts for.....is that true?

This is one of my all time favorite body designs.....I'd love to learn that it may be practical to buy one!
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
1957/91 C Series trucks look identical with one exception.
1958/60's have dual headlights.
C (gas) & CT (diesel) Series COE's: 500 thru 1100.
All the F600 4WD's Ford sold thru 1972 were Marmon-Herrington conversions.
Cool. :)

Doggonit I don't remember the year of mine... '74 is it? LOL :)
361FT ~65,000 miles, Clark 5 speed
I'd've wet my pants if it'd been a 389 or 390 or 391. ;)
A friend of mine gave me "the front half" since he wants to
make a work-site trailer out of the rear box and frame...

http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/C700-1.jpg
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/C700-2.jpg
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/C700-3.jpg
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/C700-4.jpg
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/C700-5.jpg
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/C700-6.jpg
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/C700-7.jpg

I put the Clark's model number in Google and found the cheapest ones to
be over $500 and up to $1000 and offered to sell it and give him the money
and he didn't want it. :)

The shifter set up is screwy but otherwise I suppose a guy could fit the Clark
into an F series pickup? At least the bell housing will fit an FE?

Alvin in AZ
ps- That's Willcox's "dry lake sand" on everything.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Here's a ltttle info more on the C series trucks. According to what I've learned the cabs themselves were built by Budd Corporation using tooling owned by Ford. Mack Trucks ( under license from Ford) also used this cab, with minor mods, on their N model trucks. Pierre Thibault ( spelling may be wrong) a Canadian fire truck builder and Walter Truck Corp a builder of airport crash trucks also used this cab under similar agreements with Ford. There may have been others. I ran a search for N model Macks and finally came up with a pic. They didn't build many.

http://www.oldmacks.com/324-02a.JPG
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Redcat Diesel
:) Here's a ltttle info more on the C series trucks. According to what I've
learned the cabs themselves were built by Budd Corporation using tooling
owned by Ford. Mack Trucks ( under license from Ford) also used this cab,
with minor mods, on their N model trucks. ...a Canadian fire truck builder
and Walter Truck Corp a builder of airport crash trucks also used this cab
under similar agreements with Ford.
Cool, thanks! :)

There's a plate with information to that effect on the cab but I fiNgured
it was talking about the huge box on the rear. :) It had been used as an
electrician's work-site truck and my buddy is into that too, but as a builder
and re-modeler and wants to continue using it that way but the tax,license
and insurance etc is just too much money to only move that box from one
work-site to another.

Alvin in AZ
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Alvin in AZ

The shifter set up is screwy but otherwise I suppose a guy could fit the Clark
into an F series pickup? At least the bell housing will fit an FE?

Alvin in AZ
The bell housing has the same pattern as an FE but you would have to check on the diameter of the flywheel and the number of teeth on the ring gear. If memory serves me correctly FE and FT engines are balanced differently so the flywheels don't interchange. Yes the shift linkage is screwy. The top cover however can be changed for use in a conventional cab.

That Clark trans is most likely a model 282 or 285. If you plan on using it keep in mind one of them, a 285V I believe has 4th and 5th ratios that are very close. These were used with a 2 speed rear and are often refered to as a " short 4th " transmission. The meaning of short 4th is this. In most 5 speed trans, 2 speed axle setups the shift sequence for the upper gears went 4th low, 4th high, 5th low, 5th high. Low and high being the axle shift. On short 4th setups the sequence goes 4th low, 5th low, 4th high, 5th high. Short 4th setups were a Ford only item.

BTW, that half a truck still has a lot of reusable goodies.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Unimog005
There's one (a 1966, I think) out here that I asked the owner about once....he said something or another about the engines (or was it trannies?) in these being somewhat "disposable" and hard to repair/find parts for.....is that true?
1966: The standard configuration was either the 300 I-6 or the 330 FT M/D engine with a New Process 435 4 speed transmission, and a Timken single speed rear end.

The 330 H/D, 361 & 391 were optional, as was a diesel.

There were a wide range of different transmissions, includings the Transmatic (Allison).

The Eaton 2 speed was optional, and there were at least three other optional rear ends, all tried and true.

Considering the powertrains, I'd say the fellow didn't know where to look for parts past his local Auto-Zone.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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My dad drove those COE's for years through the streets of Chicago...The earliest ones I remember had the dual headlights...Sometimes, I'd go to work with him and nearly wet my pants when he'd go whipping through alleys---missing parked cars and garbage cans by inches...The visibility in them was great,...huge windshield, super wide cab---you could sleep in it, and the wrap-around rear windows...
 
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 02:51 AM
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Cool thread. :)

I told a track foreman at work... (Angel Quidoz)
"man... that is one ugly truck you got! ;)"
He lit into me with all the things he liked about it and all I could say was...
"so... the ugly ones really are the good ones then? :)"
Your "visibility in them was great" line is what jumped out at me, he made
a big deal about that. :)

Red and Bill...
The Clark is a 282 V 55 (D3TA-7004-DA)
It's got a 2 speed rear-end but didn't get the tag off of it.

"BTW, that half a truck still has a lot of reusable goodies." -Red

For sure, but I haven't even taken one part off tho. :)
Not quite sure what to do with it.
It'd be cool to part it out to someone that's restoring one,
before I go and screw it up. ;)

Alvin in AZ
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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I owned a 1970 F600 COE 330 5spd. single speed Timken rear....good truck, would NOT stall..power steering was great.

Kind a very rusty, needed brake and clutch master cylinders Sold to a homeless guy for a dollar...he still drives it up in the sierra somewhere's hauling wood or some such.

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Let's go for a spin. In my Ford, of course.
 
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