How acurate would you say the dashhawk is?

 

Gauges are accurate as much as the next digital gauge, the biggest difference is that it will only pull the generic DTCs(one common to the big three, or other manufactor vehicles that it will work on), it will not pull the Ford Specific(or any manufactor specific) codes which, depending on the license you have, you can get on the DashDAQ.

 

Thats funny, my 08 SD V10 came with the trans temp and coolant temp, and even the oil pressure. I have the intake air temp on my real diesels which is pretty much worthless. Just coincides with ambient air temp and my sd came with a gauge for that too.lol As far as throttle position my right foot monitors that pretty well. 375$ worth of gas will take u a long way these days and your truck wouldn't look obamaized or riged .

 

Intake Air temp is not the same as ambiant air temp. If your gauge is giving you the same reading then it's bad. If it's the stock gauge then that's another reason why factory isn't good enough.

Also you have yet to answer the question that I had directed towards you. As you have yet to really defend why stock is good other then just your opinion, while others have present experiances that defy that way of thinking, not just opinions, which is all that you have presented.

 

I did not say air temp and ambient were the same. Just that they coincide. On hot days they run high and on cold days lower. Intake air temp that is. I have the 22 stock peterbilt gauges and the 2000$ cat id option which tells everything about engine u can think of and stuff i am sure u never herd of in your pickup world. This is all digital and is redundant to all 22 factory gauges plus ads countless other readouts. It takes the place of 2 gauges on dash or u can get 24 from pete. This tell gal per hour fuel, cruse set and actual speed. Pto rpm set and actual rpm. And on and on. And a 100mph plus speedo hence one on dash only goes to 80. Probably way more sofisicated then any aftermarket junk for a SD pickup. This is where i see the intake air temp but i never leave on that mode for long. Just too boreing. The % of engine power display is cool but gets old too. If anything goes wrong i'll just trust my DIC.

 

If your saying that they coincide, then your saying that they are the same. Just using different words to say it

That's fine if we are talking about peterbilts, but we are talking about Ford SDs. Little bit of a difference there.

From what I can tell none of this relates to an SD. This is irrelevant for us that don't have peterbilts or other rigs that aren't Ford SDs. So what if peterbilts have accurate gauges, how does that help me with my 6.0 ford and that doesn't explain your post that stock Ford gauges are accurate and sufficient and have been for the past 30 yrs, when that just isn't the case based on not just my experiance, but my friends and various people on this board.

If all this stuff is coming off your peterbilt, then that's all fine and dandy for you, but it doesn't do anybody a lick of good with a ford SD and it doesn't help your cause in saying that Ford factory gauges are the cat's meow.

You also haven't answered my earlier questions(back on either page 2 or 3 whenever my last direct post to you appeared before you got back online today).

 

I will just agree with the OP. Yes they are worthless [gauges]. But personally i don't need them for a gauge But they look nice and the DIC tells it all anyway.If your have a problem the dealer plugs it in and the computer tells them the code anyway. Low on gas your dinger goes off and the dic says low fuel. Speedo is the only gauge u really need. Tachs are usually never watched once u get used to vehicle, auto or stick. U shift by sound or feel not the tach. Now need to worry about over rev as the computer is always on the job. Rev limitor i thik they call it. Ford knows this why do u think they axed the amp meter in 05. Because we don't need one anyway. Goodday

 

In other words you don't have a logical reason for why everyone has issues and you don't.

Like I said, my computer did not throw a code for my injector leaking, fuel pump going out, or lack of cyclinder pressure. How is any of that good? Explain that(if you can).

Well I can't comment on that because I rarely let it get below a quarter of a tank. However, I can tell you that if your doing that on a regular basis, your going to have injector and fuel pump issues. Once again not smart on your part to make a habit out of that.

Not true. I go by the tach all the time, if I'm trying to watch for economy or when I'm towing. Now if I was just using the truck as a tow, then that would be something else(as it appears that you do, or atleast I hope you just use it as a toy based on your answers here). Also, it's best to go by the tach while the engine is warming up, especially with the 6.0 because if you over rev it, bye bye gaskets after so long of doing that.

Your just in a dream world. Unbelievable.

That's a matter of preferance, so I'll let that be.

 

Ford tried for years to aleviate all the unnecessary warranty complaints by creating the guages you want, with large areas of the guage clearly marked "NORMAL" range. Yet hundreds of people would flock in the dealership everytime the weather changes, they load the car with heavier than normal loads, drive through enclimate weather, mountainous terrain, etc and as soon as they see the guage sitting somewhere different than it was on average there they were at the dealer REFUSING to accept that they were experiencing normal operation.

So now you are recieving the result of all those stubborn peoples actions. A dealership can only offer so much of their technicians time chasing no problem found. It became simply epidemic proportions.

 

If you are going with the Edge dash daq, buy the one from Power Hungry Performance instead. Better customer service and custom tunes can be added to it. Plus the owner is pretty nice.

Anyone know if these things even have an oil pressure sending unit on them?

As for comparing them against GM's, GM just has done a better job on the data cable transfer of data and are using better gauge simulators. No surprise since they have used this technology for quite a few years now compared to Ford which was still using traditional wiring for a lot of electronic items in their vehicles until this last year. Don't get me wrong though, I hate that Ford has done such a crappy job on providing me with realtime data I like to monitor.

 

Edge I think does the Insight monitor. It's DrewTech that does the DashDAQ.

The only problem with the Insight, is that it cannot read or clear Manufactor specific codes. The DashDAQ can, but as far as I know Matt is the only one that has the ability to tune the DashDAQ(if you were talking about the DashDAQ).


They don't have an oil pressure sending unit, the DashDAQ get's that info from the truck's computer. The DashDAQ allows for analog inputs for which you are able to add that sending unit if you want that versus the Ford one. I am unaware of rather or not Edge offers that or not.

According to one person, Ford has been doing a wonderful job providing all the sufficient means that we have to get all the real time data that we need, so I don't know why you say that(I am being sarcastic of course).

 

On the subject of running low on fuel. Does not effect the fuel pump are injectors in any way. I have 6 fords and 18 total vehicles and very few issues with any of them. But i am smart enough not to own a 6.0 thats for sure. I can read and understand enough in this forum to figure that out. When i want to haul and i mean really haul i use a real diesel not a pickup.

 

Should I assume that GM's continued use of quality functional gauges is the cause of their financial crisis?

 

Maybe one of them... as well as being GM

 

Running your fuel til it gets to the bottom of the tank isn't good for a couple of reasons right off the bat.

1. If you have dirt or any other junk from where you get your fuel(water buildup, dirt, debris etc) which settles to the bottom of the tank and your sucking from the bottom of the tank because you let your truck get low on fuel, how does that not affect your injectors or fuel pump if the various forms of debris(whatever that may be) as those particles go thru the fueling system?

2. You run the risk of sucking in air. That isn't good. Not good for the pump and not good for the injectors. I don't care if your running a 6.9 or a 6.4 or the upcomming 6.7, it isn't good whatsoever. This goes the same for a gas burner as well. Unless you can tell me that sucking in air in the fuel delivery system is good for any engine and back that up, I don't know where your getting your info.

You run the risk of both of these things happening if you let your tank run low on fuel. You do. This is why I do not pump from a station that tells me the reason that I can't start fueling is that they are low on diesel but they will do an override since the amount I'm needing is less then what's left in their tank. This is mainly due to the debris settling to the bottom of the tank. Not the air issue as much.

If I am wrong, that is fine, but be very very explicit in your details why I am, because alot of what I read in your posts make very little sense to me and I don't see many people backing you up on this either.

Anybody feel free to let me know if I'm on the wrong path here(and trust me there are a few I'm sure would have let me have what for by now, which if I'm wrong, I don't mind I learn from that).