Was wondering if I should rebuild my stock style carb I think 4160 or just replace it..

It for my 460

I just bought an edelbrock performer non-egr intake for it

I dont know if its a carb issue or vacuum lines for the truck being sluggish off the line

This is first car with a carb so still dont know them to test..etc

I want to get rid of the hot air choke...thats $60 just for that...

was thinking either a holley or edelbrock 600 with electric choke?

I just want it to work properly and know that it is without paying someone to check it out...

 

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Rebuilding the one you have will cost less than 20-25% the cost of replacing with a Holley or Edelbrock. Where are you seeing the hot-air choke costs $60? Most aftermarket carbs are all electric, or manual. I haven't seen many non-factory hot-air choke carbs. $60 sounds like the price difference between a manual choke and an electric choke based on my research.

If you want my honest advice, you're going to be putting some time into the truck whether you fix the current carb or install a new one if you're new to carburetors. With that said, I think you should spend that time fixing your current one. Only after you become proficient around engines and carburetors should you drop $250-300 on a new carburetor. Sure, a new Edelbrock would perform a little better and be simpler, but it'd be more worthwhile in the long run if you installed it after you had a handle on things. You can rebuild your stock 4 barrel for under $50, and that's worst-case assuming it needed to be rebuilt. I'd run the stock one for a few weeks at least, and then if you like where you're at, go for a performance upgrade. What I'm saying is you shouldn't spend $300 on a part that (1) may not even be the source of your issues and (2) may not be necessary even if it is the problem and (3) you're new to engines.

As far as diagnosing why it's sluggish off the line, it could be the carburetor, but until you diagnose the issue, you have no data pointing you to it yet. You need to check a few things. First, with the truck shut off, pull off the air cleaner and look down the throat of the carb. Pull back the throttle and look for 2 streams of gas shooting against the venturis in the primary throttle bores. If that checks out, check your ignition timing (with a timing light, not by ear). If that's new to you, let us know as there are some safety issues there. How long since your last tuneup (new filters, plugs, wires)?

 

What portion of the hot air choke costs $60.00? These were never sold as a unit, all the parts were sold separate =

Plastic choke cover w/spring, die cast metal choke housing, choke tube that fits between the housing and the "thermostatic hot air tube" that fits into the intake manifold.

If the coil spring inside the choke cover is the problem, or the plastic is cracked...there is more than one choke cover.

There is a two letter ID code moulded into the plastic, post what that is...I'll find you a new one, and it won't cost 60 bucks.

If the housing is cracked, Ford used the same one for at least 10 years on cars/trucks, it's EZ to find, and in-expensive.

The choke tube is copper and easily bent to shape. Autoparts stores sell a kit for less than 10 bucks that contains the tube, a flexible nylon heat shield, nuts and ferrules.

The thermostatic choke tube that fits into the intake manifold (C8VY9C869A) is the same for 1973/79 F100/350 460's and 1968/78 429/460 passenger cars.

While this tube is obsolete, a qwik search turned up 17 NOS originals at Ford dealers and another 27 NOS originals at obsolete parts vendors.

 

It was a kit in summit to get rid of the hot air since I will change intake manifolds...for 58.99

I cant find a renew kit for it the only one I found was buy a multipurpose kit that sis several carbs for 86 dollars

the carb has number 80112 and 2710 so a 4180 carb is what I found (motorcraft )

I will be doing a few things to the truck eventually

1. Compression test
2. change intake
3. renew carb while its off or replace...add spacer
4. recurved distributor
5. headers

 

Anybody know where to get a 4180 renew/rebuild kit for cheap?

 

When it comes to carburetor rebuild kits, you do not want to go cheap. Bring the numbers from your carb (list number, tag number, etc) to Napa and have them cross reference the kit you need. Napa carries excellent rebuild kits.

 

Havent called them but online the part numbers dont match my carb...

found holley 3-1136 for $60 a renew kit so I think I just get that and see how it goes...its for a 4180 and
the 81120 seems to go with a 64-3216 carb and this is athe kit for it to the best of my knowledge...