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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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i just put a new distributor in my 300 i6, and it ran perfect for all of 4 miles and started puttering then left me stranded. a few minutes later it cranked up and ran good for a few seconds before puttering again. got it home and it hasnt started since. ive tried turning the housing ever so slightly as to maybe adjust the time... but didnt work. my only guess is to find tdc and set to #1 on distributor? is that what should be done? if so. what is the best or easiest way to find tdc without removing valve cover. its a hassle to get all the intake manifold off just for that. its a 95 300 efi..
 
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Pull the #1 plug and place a screwdriver in the hole. With a socket on the crank bolt, turn the motor until that screwdriver reaches it's highest point. When you get it it to that point you're at TDC.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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Pull the #1 plug and place a screwdriver in the hole. With a socket on the crank bolt, turn the motor until that screwdriver reaches it's highest point. When you get it it to that point you're at TDC.
If it is a timing problem he needs TDC of the compression stroke. There are two TDCs for every rotation of the distributor, one exhaust, one compression. This screwdriver method will only tell you the same thing the timing marks on the balancer will, that your at TDC of one of the two strokes.

To find TDC of compression:
1. Remove #1 spark plug
2. Connect switch or wire to jump starter silenoid (connecting the battery pos to the smaller post on top)
3. Plug the hole left by the #1 spark plug with your finger (it won't hurt)
4. Use the wire or switch set up in step 2 to click over the starter to turn the motor in short intervals
5. When the compression stroke starts to compress it will push your finger out. When that happens the pistion will be on it's way up on the compression stroke, continue to turn the motor slowly until the timing mark on the balancer reads TDC. you will then be at TDC of compression.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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i just put a new distributor in my 300 i6, and it ran perfect for all of 4 miles and started puttering then left me stranded. a few minutes later it cranked up and ran good for a few seconds before puttering again. got it home and it hasnt started since. ive tried turning the housing ever so slightly as to maybe adjust the time... but didnt work. my only guess is to find tdc and set to #1 on distributor? is that what should be done? if so. what is the best or easiest way to find tdc without removing valve cover. its a hassle to get all the intake manifold off just for that. its a 95 300 efi..
Welcome to FTE,

However;

I do not think timing is your big issue. It ran fine for a while, timing could then only be an issue if the distributor was loose and turned in the motor, and then all you'd need is to reset it with a timing light.

Do you have, Are you using a timing light?

If I was presented with your problem the first thing to do is to check for spark, that is to see if there is spark comming from the coil. This can be done two ways.

First, easiest, and safest, is to use a timing light. An inductive (uses a clamp over the wire) timing light will only flash when the wire it's on fires. So clamp the timing light on the coil wire with the wires hooked up or with the coil wire just grounded and turn the engine over, does the timing light flash.

Get this far, tell us more of what's going, on and we'll take it from there.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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Where did you buy the distributor? Some parts store electronics parts are beyond useless so the pickup inside the distributor could be your problem.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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Parts house parts sometimes are defective.....
 
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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Symptoms of a bad pickup coil, aka stator assy. Return the distributor for another one.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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new distributor problems(cont. of distributor problems)

i just had the chance to put my original distributor back in and it started right up. but now it has a pronounced clicking sound like the timing may be off?? should i just find tdc? how exactly do u align the marks on the balancer to tdc? is there a second mark to align them? or just straight up and down? if its a timing issue should i just find tdc?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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If it is running you are as close to tdc as you need to be. Back to the timing light, how are you timing it?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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so if i do have it running, dont try to turn it to tdc?? i am actually not familiar with a timing light.. what does it do exactly? and can u get them anywhere? could it just be that i have it a tooth off or something on the distributor gear?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Jason,

You don't "align" the timing marks to TDC, that is taken care of by the fact that the balancer is keyed to the crankshaft.

You can tell that you're at top dead center *on the compression stroke* by seeing if the rotor is pointing at the number one sparkplug wire terminal in the cap (and not 180* away) when the marks on the balancer are lined up.

You really need a timing light to set the proper ignition advance.

If your old distributor works what caused you to replace it?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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A timing light is a strobe that is triggered by sensing the spark to the #1 cylinder.
It effectively freezes the motion of the spinning timing mark while the engine is running.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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i just went back to a parts store and got yet another distributor since the old left me stranded the other day. but i attempted to replace it becuz it was missing every now and then and i had replaced plugs, wires, cap and rotor already and cant think of what else that it could have been to cause it to miss not on a regular basis but pretty bad at higher rpms. but i do have a rebuilt that i just put in a few minutes ago and it is running. but has a slight tapping sound. idk what it is. maybe slight timing issue?? if i get a timing light, what would i need to do after i figure out if #1 is in fact getting the spark as it should? also how do you set the proper ignition advance?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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so if i do have it running, dont try to turn it to tdc?? i am actually not familiar with a timing light.. what does it do exactly? and can u get them anywhere? could it just be that i have it a tooth off or something on the distributor gear?
You really need a timing light and to learn how to use it.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jason08
what would i need to do after i figure out if #1 is in fact getting the spark as it should? also how do you set the proper ignition advance?
# 1 is getting spark as it should, or the truck would not start.

You need to look under the hood for the emissions data sticker.
This will tell you what advance to set the timing at.
 
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