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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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no once its started it (abs) goes out. ill go try some more of what you said and be back with the results.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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You should disconnect all the leads at the alternator. where do you live, how cold is it there.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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ok the fuse that makes it all go away is fuse 15 it says stop lamp switch (logic):generic electronic module(GEM),powertrain control module(PCM),four wheel antilock brake system (4WABS)module,brake shift interlock,cluster and PCM keep alive memory.if this helps you help me great.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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from michigan but in newjersy now and its about 29 right now. will diconnecting the leads from the alt. tell me anything?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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I would suspect a part of the abs system is causing the problem. Just to make sure, with the fuse out and turn the key on to make sure you still get dash lights. It controls power to the pcm so you might not even get dash lights with that one out. I don't know a lot about the abs system but that's probably where I would look. You could disconnect the individual components until the light goes out.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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did what you said and i do get all the lights on the dash. and it will start. disconnected all leads to the alt. and the same thing happened with the fuse in. with the fuse out and alt re connected the battery indicator is real low compaired to when the fuse is in. also the #1 relay clicks (the white one in the cab) with the fuse out.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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I would leave that fuse out overnight and make sure your batteries don't discharge. If that is your problem then just pull that fuse until you figure out what is going on. I'm not sure how it started with that fuse out. Maybe if I get bored I'll try mine. Good luck.........
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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thanks for your help.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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The GEM is most likely causing all these problems. It controls many different things and causes some funky problems when it acts up. There are a few threads on it. Let me see if I can find one for you.

EDIT: The only thing I found while doing a quick search was that some trucks have had a leaky windshield and the water runs down onto the GEM or fuse block causing problems. I'd try looking for any signs of water under the drivers side and center section of the dash and go from there.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Yeah, it does sound like the GEM. I read on a post about the power lock issue.
The GEM is screwed to the back of the fuse panel under the dash.
It comes out in about 10 min with the right tools. Hardest part is unscrewing the bulkhead connectors from the fuse panel.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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GEM? i know i should know but i cant think of it.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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now that you say that that seems to be where all the clicking and stuff comes from when it starts acting up. what does a new one run $$?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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GEM? i know i should know but i cant think of it.
General Electronics Module. Its similar to the VSM (vechicle security module) on the 02 and up trucks.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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Yep, pretty good bet the GEM is shot. About the only single thing that can cause all your problems. It can also leave you stranded with dead batteries if not fixed.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Generic Electronic Module got it.
 
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