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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Just came across a deal for (2) BFG 35"/12.5/16.5 Mud Terrains 90% tread and (3) General Grabber Mud Terrains 35"/12.5/16.5 with 75% tread.. $350 for all... is this a good deal? Is there a considerable difference in General M/T's and BFG M/T's that I shouldn't run both kinds of tires on my truck?
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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IF you have 4WD the size and pattern differences could cause troubles on dry pavement.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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what kind of problems would it cause?? planning on getting these tomorrow.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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Yay or Nay on running 2 bfg m/t 35"/12.5 back and 2 General M/T 35"/12.5 on front?
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Do you use 4wd on harder surfaces? In the slosh it will not matter, but when you have traction the final drive ratio differences will cause the drive train to bind.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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usually on ice/snow thats about it.. will it cause permanent damage on the drivetrain?
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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What am I missing here they are both 35/12.5/16.5s right. Short of the wear of the BFGs vs the Generals being a estimated 15% wear difference which equals @ .1" difference. If you are worried about it stay off the dry pavement in 4X4. If you need tires I say go for it, it's not like you are running 33"s and 35"s.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Yes, it'd be like having 2 different final drive ratios on the front and rear differential.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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Just because they are labeled as 315 whatever, manufacture tolerances are well over 10% in some cases. You could have a full 1" difference between any two manufactures and I wouldn't be surprised if you measured a 1/4" difference from the same manufacture and batch and 1/2" difference in different batches.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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Edit: Never mind ReAX beat me to it.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 06:33 AM
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Just because they are labeled as 315 whatever, manufacture tolerances are well over 10% in some cases. You could have a full 1" difference between any two manufactures and I wouldn't be surprised if you measured a 1/4" difference from the same manufacture and batch and 1/2" difference in different batches.
I know that idealy the tires should be perfectly sized to each other. It seems that he want's to know if it will work and save a couple hundred bucks. I must have gotten distracted when I was responding, but I meant to ask him to measure their circumfrence and let us know the difference.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 07:08 AM
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A 35" diameter tire is 109.9 or 9.15ft in circumference and 577 revolutions per mile. A 34" tire is 106.7 or 8.89 ft and 593 revolutions per mile. So for every mile traveled 1" makes a difference of 16 revolutions per mile. So the smaller tire has to skip 142.2 ft because they are both revolving at the same rate but the larger tire goes further per rev. Sure it's only 2.5%, but 142ft is still quite a bit of lost traction.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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General MT: 34.6" BFG MT: 34.8" - Pretty close
 
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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General MT: 34.6" BFG MT: 34.8" - Pretty close
I was off by .1" on my estimate darn... I'd do it, you can have that much difference with the same brand and a lapsed rotation. Though I am sure some one will say otherwise. You don't want to be in 4X4 in the situations that this would matter anyways.
 
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I say it depends on how he drives his truck, I know I personally wouldn't have an issue with this. The only time I have my truck in 4x4 is when I am off road, or when the roads are really bad. If the roads aren't too bad I usually just use 4x4 to get going from a stop and then shift back into 2 wheel drive. I don't drive more than a few hundred feet, so the little bit of difference in ratio won't matter.

Also, I was thinking that there was already a tiny bit of difference in the gear ratios as it is. I though i remember reading that if you have the 3:73 rear gears your front gears are actually 3.72:1 or something like that. This was because they are from two different manufacturers (Sterling and Dana). I could be totally mistaken on this though.
 
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