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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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i have '97 f250 with about 210k miles on the clock . been thinking of contacting rosewood diesel and sending my injectors to be refurbished into stage 1's. it has not been running quite right for about a month. extra smoke when starting when it was cold and idleing rough until it warmed up.bought new glow plugs and planned on putting them in when i sent my injectors in. stared it up friday to go to work and it seems like its running on 7 cyls. lots of grey smoke(white with black). im talking lots of smoke. i shut it down and took my other truck to work. im thinking an injector took a poop. about a year ago i had to put in valve cover gaskets,under valve cover wire harness and a new injector control module. a shop did that. $2300. worth of stuff. so im not thinking its that.any thoughts?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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forgot to add : no cel , no codes, just bad idle with lots of smoke, i didnt drive it no where running like it was. i did let it run for awhile and it didnt clear up at all.i dont have a chip, just coons10k mod.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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I would still check the harness for burnt pins.....another cause could be IPR orings.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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i checked the whole wire harness . no broken wires , no burnt pins. the ipr doesnt leak oil. idk. tomorrow i'll pull the valve covers off , see what i can see and pull the injectors out and call jim at rosewood. i was really wanting to wait till afer the holidays to do this.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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was it knocking at all?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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I would take off the 10K mod and see if the black smoke goes away. This morning it was 27 degrees and I had a lot of white smoke until I took off then in about 1 1/2 blocks all was well. Might just want to take that mod off and take truck for a spin.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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it seemed like was knocking a little . didnt sound right. not running on all 8. weird sound from tail pipe . 3" downpipe 4" exhaust. no cat. mbrp exhaust. popping sound. lots-o-smoke.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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weird sound could have been your EBPV.....your orings can be bad on the IPR and not leak oil
 
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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For sure take the 10K mod off thats giving ya more fuel and probably makin the truck run rougher than normal, check the connectors to the HEUI u think took a crap on ya if ya havnt already, let us know what ya find after u take the 10K off
 
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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ebpv has been unplugged for 2 years. actuating arm for it is in the same position it has been. open . dont know about the ipr. disconnected coons 10k and no change ,still seems like its not running on all 8. smoke? looks like the house is on fire . its parked next to the house and it will engulf the whole house with smoke. thank you for your help. i just hope i'm going in the right direction with looking at the injectors as being the culprit.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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i told my self the same thing your saying about the injector being the culprit and i ordered some stage II's and it fixed my problem but i also found a burnt wire while i was in there i'm happy i got them
 
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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injectors were the culprit. found 2 that were not torqued down. on one of those the copper gasket was non existant anymore. the whole end was black. the bottom o ring on that one was in real bad shape . i'm glad i found something that could say "there's the problem." i dont know what the previous owner had done to the truck ,but only one injector had a backup ring for the o ring second down from the top . i took a pic ,but dont know how to upload it. need to contact jim at rosewood for stage1's .
thanks for the help, would not have tackled it without this site
 
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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guess i have to wait till monday to talk to jim , normal biusness hours , to talk to ya, unless you are lurkin' around here somewhere. 160 cc's is what i want. hated to do this around the holidays.
steve
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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Send them to him today and chances are you will be putting them back in this weekend. Depending on shipping. He is usually quick with his turnarounds.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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he's a great guy and fast you will be happy with whatever you get from him
 
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