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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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Flipping I-Beams?

looks like fliped beams to me and maybe a body lift(additionally of some sort).......and tires look lined up fine.....if U can get another photo of suspension lets see how the steering is attached to tie rods at the pivot point......But for an old beat up truck it looks great raised up like that.......

Imagine what one that isnt beat up would look like ....really nice..




 

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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Flipping I-Beams?

i wouldn't mind my 67 looking like that. those look like some good sized meats in the back
 
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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See how I beams on normal suspension on an f-100 is lined up just below bumper.....


This is a guesstamation on lift without a body lift .....Also when u add big tires U will get lift as well......

But with normal tires about 24/25 inches from ground to your bumper.....

then if U have Huge tires add another 3-4(depending maybe more) inches

then a 3-4in body lift.........

so add anothe 5-7 total ....inches on aprox. 29-32 inches off ground front bumper....as opposed to 18...

Id say I could get 10 inches of lift..................or that appearance with all this stuff and maybe more depending on tires.....



so That blue truck has both body lift and fliped beams for sure...and u can see those tall tires on blue truck really adding lift to it.........
 

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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 02:25 AM
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Flipping I-Beams?

Ok, im gonna go for it...
I think i'll need these items, correct me if im wrong..
Extended brake lines
New bushings for entire front end(rubber or poly?)

Lift blocks
Add-a-leafs, (or entire new springs for rear)


Any More?

A droped "Pitman Arm"


is what u will need......They do make them for ford trucks with Power Steering if U have it....(JC sells them)
I do not have it and am having a hard time finding one prefabricated..........
here is what it is and looks like....



If Find one for manual steering let me know ......otherwise i may to convert to power steering Just to attach this thing...But id rather not .....has to be some for sale somewhere for manual....
 
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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Flipping I-Beams?

Check out James Duff
http://www.jamesduff.com/eb/steering.html
This is where you can find the Drop Pitman Arm...
 
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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Flipping I-Beams?

if i did that lift with the flipped beams and a 2" or so body lift, do you think i could fit 37 or 38" tires?
 
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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Flipping I-Beams?

For sure... I have seen people with 36" no body lift and some room left over, you might be able to do 38's with no body lift if your susp. is high enough but for insurance, i'd do the body lift too

But all I want to run is 35s
 
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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Flipping I-Beams?

i'm gonna do it. now i just have to save up for new tires and wheels.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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Flipping I-Beams?

I would reccomend going with the auto-fab beams, I live close to the shop. You DO NOT have to buy the whole kit. He will sell you just the bent beams for a few hundred bucks. After that get the drop pitman arm, some 6 or 8 inch lift coils from any company, longer shocks, and consider lengthening your radius arms, this is a lot better than flipping your I beams, Autofab bent beams are a proven suspension that can take a beating and give you good wheel travel
 
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 08:42 PM
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Flipping I-Beams?

I didnt find one there .....But SKYJACKER has the largest assortment of droped pitman arms.....designed for several
different lifts. Thay also have Body lift kits and body mounts for the 75/76 trucks.....But do they have the manual steering pitman arm for this year ...

I also e-mailed autofab to ask if i could buy parts from a kit seperately about a week ago have not even got an email back yet .......so I dont think they are too intrested in a few hundred dollars for a sale.........

Also the beams on the Ford truck now are also proven to be very tough as well and able to take major abuse......Believe me ....

An I beam saved my live in a wreck by stoping the other vehicle from crushing me(traveling 55mph on impact)......i walked out of my truck with zero injury.....and just had to replace my driver's side door fender and beam and she was as good as before afterwards......

MY I beam bent but Totaled(buckled it(an old buick regal) out other car

The beams are very strong and tough .....and that was the 1980 F-100 in my gallery pics......I also painted it afterwards...

I am sure the 60.s 70.s I beams are ever tougher.....
 

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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 11:02 PM
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Flipping I-Beams?

i was under my truck earlier and the beams look like they could take quite a beating. also aren't auto fab beams just stockers rebent to take lift springs?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 01:08 AM
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Flipping I-Beams?

I guarantee you that they sell just the beams, I have personally walked into their store in Santee California, (5 miles from my house) and walked out with a set of bent Ranger beams. The reason that you dont get any response from Email is because they are not really online savvy people, they dont check their email on a regular basis, they do their business over the phone and in person, if you are serious about getting some good beams give them a call and talk to someone directly, preferably John
 
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 06:53 AM
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Flipping I-Beams?

I am sure they will sell them....and i do believe they are rebent....original beams......

But I myself would like to flip the factory beams just like that blue truck's whoooo hoo ....and its still 200 bucks less then...buying their beams...

might be able to get away with just buying a droped pitman arm and its all good....
 
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 09:57 AM
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Flipping I-Beams?

Autofabs beams are the stock beams bent, I live in San Diego where there are lifted I beam trucks EVERYWHERE, I have a lot of experience with those trucks and I have never once heard of anyone flipping their I beams, I think it would be too much of a head ache to try to align the truck after you flip them and figure out how to align everything upside down, the autofab beams just bolt right in, not easily but a whole lot easier than flipping your beams and running a spindle upside down, like it was not intended to be, $200 bucks, come on now its well worth it, these beams have been tested in such races as the Baja 500, San Felipe 250, race proven design, upside down beams/spindles have no track record for strength and I can already see the geometry problems it will have, I wish I could do a drawing to show you how weak this set up will be, if you flip them let me know how quick you snap the kingpin
 
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 10:44 PM
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Flipping I-Beams?

I HIGHLY DOUBT king pin will snap...

I feel the King pin has no greater/or lessor chance of snapping with the refabricated beams......or the fliped beam....
(67-79 F series)


I drove a smashed ford truck (Daily)with a bent I beam for about 10 months before replacing the I beam and used the same King pin (which didnt snap on impact of a car going 55mph smashing into my rim .....If anything I beam will bend (and did)before the kingpin snaps....from what ive seen in a real crash...and that was on a 1980 truck..

Thats all bullet proof stuff...Ford makes a tough truck...

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Are U sure i cant flip my whole assembly over to run in normal position?....(the spindle)Why run it upside down..
Why not take king pin out flip whole assembly and put it back on...


on a (73-79) so what makes the unaltered steel weaker as u say...


And isnt steel Weaker after it is bent .....so is the bent refab beam stronger/Weaker or the same?

How are they bent (ie like a blacksmith/heat and beat) or machine bent like a muffler shop would bend them......?

And if you never heard/done/seen any of this I beam flipping before how could you say there is any adverse effect but the obvious alignment issue....

Even if I swap beams out totally Im still doing an alignment ....and same work here....

However,

look at the picture of the 67 blue truck it has fliped I beams and looks lined up fine and those tires dont look unevenly worn either....

It's quite inspirational....






This may be managable if u leave everything stock and just do the flip no new springs ect.....by just adding a pitman arm...



(Once U add longer springs and shocks u will need the adjustable passenger side tie rod also in the autofab kit I believe/ This is where this will be a major alignmen issue ....but If U leave her stock it seem that it may be in reach)

Read the Very First post which started the whole thing(Flippin beams) .....This flip is based on a Four Wheeler magazine article where the 2wd trucks were turned into mud boggers this way........



I dont plan on jumping 10 foot dirt piles or doing the Baha with my 3575 pound 28 year old Truck either lol..It would be to add clearance, give it a cool look, make it alot more fun to drive off the road then it is now.........

If i was going to do extreme things with the truck then id put all pro gear on it.....but this is something to play with and whos to say u cant do a pro job by flipping the beams....


I am sure there are alot of hay and manuere haulers out there that could use an inexpensive alternate....


Its also a cool something to do to an old truck just for the sake of it as in a hobby or past time....

Needless to say I am Pro-Flip lol





 

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