Garage heater
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I'd like to build a solar powered, hot-water solar heating system using my south facing roof.
But with both propane and or kerosene you are supposed to have a fresh air supply coming in (more with the kerosene than the propane)
Depending on how much waste oil you can get (depending on type of heater you can use anything from motor oil to 90w gear to syntetic to fryer oil) you may want to look into a waste oil burner. Space might also be aconsideration. A little on the expensive side to set up, but once you have it and can get waste oil it costs very little and is very good at heating.
But with both propane and or kerosene you are supposed to have a fresh air supply coming in (more with the kerosene than the propane)
Depending on how much waste oil you can get (depending on type of heater you can use anything from motor oil to 90w gear to syntetic to fryer oil) you may want to look into a waste oil burner. Space might also be aconsideration. A little on the expensive side to set up, but once you have it and can get waste oil it costs very little and is very good at heating.
Unless you plan on moving into the garage, your not going to use that much electric, while working on the vehicles. An oil burner furnace would be nice, if you could run across one cheap. But then u still have to run a flue.
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All these issues have led me to recently order an electric fan powered garage heater this year. I purchased this heater off of eBay, but I have not received it yet. I think this heater will work much better and more efficiently heating my garage. When I need heat I just turn it on and set the thermostat and the heater I ordered will increase the temperature of the incoming air by 40 degrees F and has a 26 foot air throw, so it will heat up my garage quickly, cleanly, and with out adding moisture into my garage. I will try and remember to let you all know how it works when I get up and running. BTW it does need a 30amp 220V circuit to run on and it comes with a ceiling/wall bracket and thermostat. Here's a link to the unit I ordered:
17100 BTU Electric Garage Heater/Space Unit Heater - eBay (item 390013528136 end time Dec-11-08 14:41:14 PST)
I own the 60,000 BTU model PT-55-SS. I have used the heater on a few occasions both indoor and out with temperatures ranging from the mid twenties to thirties.
Thus far I am pleased with the performance of the unit. Operation is very straightforward. The only assembly required is attaching the handle which allows you to easily lift the heater from its very sturdy shipping box. After filling the tank and attaching an extension cord a simple flick of the on/off switch starts the heater. Unlike a friend's propane heater there is no separate igniter switch nor valves to fiddle with.
The heater is no louder than a floor fan on medium to high. Conversation is easily made standing beside the unit.
Due to the size the heater works best heating an interior. I have tried it outside but if I got farther than a few feet the warming effect was lost including the advertised “radiant” heating. Any wind whatsoever negates the Sun Stream's usefulness. I tried again to use the heater today in a 13 mph wind while working on a vehicle. I had to have the heater close to the vehicle and open a door to “trap” some of the heat. The heating was very uneven. One of my legs was toasty while the other was cold.
Inside is a completely different experience. I have a single car garage which poses no challenge to the heater. For qualitative data I conducted the following test. Starting with the garage at 30° F I allowed the heater to run for five minutes with the door shut. At the end I measured the temperature at four feet off the floor in the corner diagonally opposite. The temperature was 54° F.
After the garaged had cooled to 32° the experiment was repeated with the door raised two feet. I felt this was a more realistic, challenging and safe test since common sense dictates never running any combustion heater in an enclosed structure. The heater was placed with the inlet just below the door and aimed diagonally as before. After five minutes the temperature reached 49° at the opposite corner.
Incidentally I have yet to experience the humidity problem reported and warned of by others but if you keep a fresh air supply and exhaust the fumes I can’t see a problem. Winter air tends to be dry air and with proper ventilation any moisture should be swept away.
As with anything there are cons.
1. Without a thermostat temperature control is crude at best. But I found that with the door up and a steady supply of fresh (cold) air I could make due.
2. The fill cap is awkwardly place below the heater’s body necessitating the use of some sort of funnel for filling. My initial attempt was less than ecologically friendly. I expected Greenpeace to appear at any minute and surround my driveway with oil soak. Actually it wasn’t that bad but fuel the heater outside as directed.
3. The exhaust (heat) plate is perforated and placed at the very end unlike most torpedo heaters which have plates well inside the body. The plate being red hot and located at the end creates the “radiant” effect but also throttles and deflects the air flow. You have to be quite close to feel the radiant heat and the throttling reduces the distance the air is felt.
4. The tank is undersized. I understand this is for portability but not everyone has a french major's arm. The small size of the fuel tank also makes for a small footprint. This means the heater is top heavy. When in the truck bed I have to brace it or it will easily tip over even with a full tank.
5. The maintenance schedule is busier than any other tool I owe including other kerosene heater and including my vehicles. Flush the fuel tank every 200 hours, clean the filters twice per season, clean or replace the nozzles each season and note cleaning the nozzle requires the availability of compressed air, clean and re-gap the spark plug every 600 hours – ok this one makes sense, clean the photocell a minimum of once per season. Some of these things require disassembly of the heater. Now a lot of this busyness is due to the nature of the fuel so I would strongly advise buying from a reputable source and keeping contaminants out of the fuel.
6. The electrical outlet is really undersized. This underscores the non-professional nature of the beast. The outlet has a 5 amp max rating. Most if not all of my tools exceed that rating and all stationary tools would overload the outlet. Bottom line run another cord for your tools or use a multi-prong extension cord. Just watch the total amperage load if you opt for the latter.
7. I have had one incident where the heater failed to start. This was the heaters fourth use. Way too early for this to be happening.
After removing it from the truck I set the heater down and turned it on to warm the garage while I finished unloading the truck. The heater did not turn on and the indicator lamp did not light. It had power, fuel and was upright. Several on off cycles of the power switch had no effect. The next morning I checked all the possible causes listed in the manual. A note here the manual mentions items to check but leaves it up to the owner to figure out where and how to do so. One of the causes was “Improper electrical connection between the Temperature Limit Sensor and Circuit Board”. You are on your own to find the component and test the connection.
After checking for what I could I tried the switch again and the heater turned on. After reassembly I set it back in the garage and fired it up. I did notice that the on/off switch appears to have a bad contact as the lamp flickered as I wiggled the switch. If this occurs again I plan to replace the switch with one more robust. No owner should not have to do this. Quality control and quality parts would eliminate such nuisances. Further the warranty requires you to pay to return the heater regardless of fault and the owner is not reimbursed for shipping.
8. There is no toll free number. What does that tell you? It tells me they discourage providing customer service and really don’t want to hear from you. The Sun Steam is under the title of Protemp which falls under Pinnacle Products International, Inc. When I tried the web address given: pinnacleint.com. I got the message “Sorry, 'pinnacleint.com' does not exist or is not available”. I have not tried the email address.
Their number is also set up such that you leave a message and they return the call. I did leave a message regarding the switch and they never returned the call.
For interior heating or non bitter and non windy outside work I recommend this heater. If your activities will involve exterior work at any distance from the heater or with the slightest breeze a larger heater with a greater CFM rating is what you need.
If you do wind up with an open flame type heater you must remain aware of what you are doing... Not only can they cause explosions they play havoc with many chemicals and can turn the fumes DEADLY when burnt / heated.
Keep it safe, we don't want to lose any family members ....
-Enjoy
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