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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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Ben, i looked at the photos of that truck,and anybody who is proud about his front lift blocks and thinks they are a selling point,well i would seriously question the remainder of his engineering. I noticed that the front U bolts arent exactly straight up and down,or maybe it just looks that way because the lower blocks are actually narrower in width than the upper blocks,plus it looks like the lower blocks are actually a little crooked.....Take a look at the pass side front shock absorber,it looks like its got some sort of extended mounting stud on the bottom....... Do you think that the poor old power-assist steering likes turning those big tires? I also noticed that it looks like the bed came from one of the F350 Super Camper Special models,it looks like the rear wheel wells are farther back than normal.........Looks like the kind of truck that would make your insurance laugh his **** off,when you asked for coverage on it.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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That's the "beauty" of AZ, no yearly inspections out there because that would definitely not pass.

As much as I complain about the inspection process out here in PA, I do miss not having to worry about some things (I lived in AZ for 30 years) but tards like this make the process worthy...
 
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by UTfball68
Said the guy who prefers chains to ****** straps


But as I said earlier...take whatever the closing price is, add $1500 for a proper lift, add probably another 2-3000 for whatever is leaking and whatever other gremlins all 30+ year old trucks have and then yeah, you got a pretty nice truck.
Help me here. what does "Said the guy who perfers chains to ****** straps" mean?
 
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Okay okay maybe not a SHOW truck. But it IS in decent shape.

And I would love to be around when that truck lost its blocks. Just to be like HAHA idiot. :P

Okay, really lets not start the chain thing again. I've been using them for well over a decade and never had an issue. IN MY EXPERIENCE, i'm fine with them. However, I told Truckin that I think im going to invest in some recovery straps. They weigh a helluva lot less than my giant chains.

And in my opinion I think mud bogging is harder on a truck then a street drive. Mud bogs around here anyways, not exactly smooth ride. :P And I didn't mean mall crawler in the sense that its capable of mall crawling. Just something that LOOKs to be built for off-road but will never GO off-road..

Lets not start this whole "THING" I agree this guy is an idiot but you guys are being a little harsh. :P
 
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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Yea but if he wrecks in a mud hole is traveling speed will likely be less than if he were traveling on the open road, and there would be less people around then if here were on the open road, basically that leaves him to hurt him self, and coming down into some mud sounds better to me than smashing my face on pavement....

As for the chains and straps thing....
He did say he was gunna invest in some straps i will concur that statement...
 
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by UTfball68
Not gonna start this debate again but...ol' Prozon prefers to use chains in just about all situations, including snatching...which is extreeeeeeeeemely dangerous. Ever heard, seen, read about a chain snapping on a recovery job? I have, as have most here, and it usually results in at least damage to the truck and sometimes death. Sure using a blanket, jacket, etc helps, but even that ain't fool proof.

I did not intend to hit a nerve here.
I only asked because a young man was killed at Powerline Park this Memorial Day when a strap with a clevis came off a truck, went through the cab and decapitated him.
He was a friend of my son.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mud Rat
a strap with a clevis came off a truck.
Chains or straps, pick one, no arguments in this thread.

But I think what MudRat was talking about would be the worst of both worlds to ****** with. The elasticity of the nylon with the heavier chain ends on it that get snapped back even harder than when a chain fails.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:11 AM
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actually bryan clevis's are the best way to attach a strap to your truck.... As long as you have a GOOD attach point and a Clevis rated for the load.... I have a set of monster clevises that i got from work, they came off a set cable that the cranes used to set up our plant.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Truckin4life
actually bryan clevis's are the best way to attach a strap to your truck.... As long as you have a GOOD attach point and a Clevis rated for the load.... I have a set of monster clevises that i got from work, they came off a set cable that the cranes used to set up our plant.
You are 100% correct on clevises,they are typically load rated,and they have rounded edges to prevent straps from abrading.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by iggybob44
You are 100% correct on clevises,they are typically load rated,and they have rounded edges to prevent straps from abrading.


Its only too bad that I see even these used incorrectly. I see these improperly side loaded all of the time. I have also seen them used to join two recovery straps together.
The other day, I saw some cat using a clevis to attach to a recovery hook. Yeah, it got ugly.
They had two blazers pulling one jeep out, and they were giving it all they had. I pulled up and started to honk my horn in a attempt to make them stop, but they must have thought I was cheering them on becuase in one large pull, the sheered the bolts from the hook, and sent the hook and the clevis flying at the Blazer. Luckily nobody was killed. These projectiles can be fatal.
These bolts served as two purposes, and one is to attach the bumper. After a few minutes removing the bumper, I properly attached to the frame, and pulled the stuck jeep without a jerk or even spinning a tire. I tolf the driver that I was gonna pull tension to see how bad he was stuck, and once I did,,,,,pop, out comes the little jeep. ALmost felt like he was not even there.
I scolded then for not practicing safe recovery methods, and hopefully educated a couple of people in an attempt to prevent a major injury.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Truckin4life
actually bryan clevis's are the best way to attach a strap to your truck.... As long as you have a GOOD attach point and a clevis rated for the load.... I have a set of monster clevises that i got from work, they came off a set cable that the cranes used to set up our plant.
We might be on two different pages here, and I think I'm the one who went retarded... I'm thought he was talking about the el-cheapo towing strap from Wal Mart, the dinky nylon and weak chain one that you use to tow a car around on the road with. And the cleavis I meant was the grab hook ones that only slips onto chain, not an slip hook like I think you're taking about, that'll fit over something more like a shakle or the tow hooks on the front of my SD.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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After the fatality at Powerline, practically no one was willing to make an attempt to recover stuck vehicles, except my son. He uses a four inch load tested strap and certified clevises. He will make one static pull, no jerking, and if it doesn't come out, he tells the driver they are SOL.
He has a diamond plate tool box in the bed and opens the lid to protect the back window.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by texastech_diesel
We might be on two different pages here, and I think I'm the one who went retarded... I'm thought he was talking about the el-cheapo towing strap from Wal Mart, the dinky nylon and weak chain one that you use to tow a car around on the road with. And the cleavis I meant was the grab hook ones that only slips onto chain, not an slip hook like I think you're taking about, that'll fit over something more like a shakle or the tow hooks on the front of my SD.

Yea that is a hook... Which is only designed to hook back onto a chain link...

Yes even clevises can be misused... Its amazing what some people come up with these days....

I educate people on proper vehicle recovery every chance i get.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mud Rat
After the fatality at Powerline, practically no one was willing to make an attempt to recover stuck vehicles, except my son. He uses a four inch load tested strap and certified clevises. He will make one static pull, no jerking, and if it doesn't come out, he tells the driver they are SOL.
He has a diamond plate tool box in the bed and opens the lid to protect the back window.
Im not afraid to "jerk" But if i do i keep the chain or strap short enough that if something like an end were to break it would hit the hood or tailgate and that would be it....

With a static pull i will string out more....

If the chain, cable or strap isnt long enough to reach anybody then you are alot safer than if you used a 50ft chain....

I have a chain that is about 7ft long... That is what i almost always use to start out with... On the RARE occasion i will do a little ****** with it... But nothing big, if that dont do it, out comes the ****** straps...

Im glad you have taught your son well!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Lets get back on topic with the crazy ***** leaf spring. This is just another thread which we have made way to many of.
 
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