Notices
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

T-19 Swap?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:03 PM
  #1  
HD74's Avatar
HD74
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 915
Likes: 1
From: Gunbarrel, Co.
T-19 Swap?

Has anyone swapped-out the 4 speed tranny behind the flathead and installed the T-19 with 4.02 gear?? It would be nice to have the use of a 4 speed and use all the gears. If you have seen the pictures of my truck you can see it's stump pulling day are over. The T-19 being a top loader would be a great replacement since there would be no new holes in the floorboard.
All comments welcome.
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2008 | 09:07 AM
  #2  
dave boley's Avatar
dave boley
Posting Guru
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,138
Likes: 2
From: Marietta, Ohio
What are the differences...

I've noticed a lot of references to the different T-series of Borg Warner trannys here.

I am wondering if anybody has a list of descriptions of the different trannys and the old Ford trucks they were used in. It would also be nice to know which ones are directly interchangeable. I'm told I have a T-98 in the last truck I acquired but I have not looked at it or taken the truck apart, so I don't know much about it. I do know I am probably going to sell it when I take the truck apart.

Later Folks...
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2008 | 11:51 AM
  #3  
merten's Avatar
merten
Laughing Gas
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 797
Likes: 3
From: Cape Coral FL
This has come up often. Search T-19, Here is an example.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...ead-v-8-a.html
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2008 | 04:19 PM
  #4  
havi's Avatar
havi
I'll have the Roast Duck
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 9,622
Likes: 110
From: Northshore, MN
Club FTE Gold Member
In my first 48 f1 attempt, I set a 400 engine in the bay, and had a T19 bolted to it, the tranny lined up pretty close, but the shifter would hit the dash, so bending back a bit would be necessary. Also, the mounting surface below the trans' rear output housing lined up on the crossmember, but since the F1's crossmember has a half-round on it, I switched to an F2 crossmember, which fit, and allowed a flat surface. Unfortunately, the frame was shot, and I since then started over with another truck. All this was behind a 400 Ford, and not the flattie. Just food for thought.
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:01 PM
  #5  
HD74's Avatar
HD74
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 915
Likes: 1
From: Gunbarrel, Co.
Originally Posted by merten
This has come up often. Search T-19, Here is an example.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...ead-v-8-a.html
Before I started this post I did search but found no referance to a T-19 mated to a flathead. The research I've done has not turned up anything. One would think that this would be a great swap. My feeling is that someone has done it, we just need to find him/them. The search continues. Thanks Marty.
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:17 PM
  #6  
HD74's Avatar
HD74
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 915
Likes: 1
From: Gunbarrel, Co.
Originally Posted by havi
In my first 48 f1 attempt, I set a 400 engine in the bay, and had a T19 bolted to it, the tranny lined up pretty close, but the shifter would hit the dash, so bending back a bit would be necessary. Also, the mounting surface below the trans' rear output housing lined up on the crossmember, but since the F1's crossmember has a half-round on it, I switched to an F2 crossmember, which fit, and allowed a flat surface. Unfortunately, the frame was shot, and I since then started over with another truck. All this was behind a 400 Ford, and not the flattie. Just food for thought.
Havi, do you have any pictures? Do you still have the T-19? How does it compare to the Flatty tranny? Thanks Marty
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2008 | 06:25 PM
  #7  
havi's Avatar
havi
I'll have the Roast Duck
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 9,622
Likes: 110
From: Northshore, MN
Club FTE Gold Member
Unfortunately, I can't find any pics. The trans I had came from a 1986 F250 2wd. Np435, T18, T19 all are similar, yet each can have a different way it mounts to the frame or output shaft and tailhousing. One thing I haven't done yet, is compare the 59T 4 speed with any other trans I have laying around. I would say the newer trans cases are a bit bigger, though. The tail section is what is totally different. The Hogshead on the flattie I have has 4 bolt holes that are offset a bit, which makes it different than the newer style 4 speeds, too. Machining a new hole pattern might work. T5's have adapter kits for the flattie, and that is the route I am taking, myself.
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2008 | 06:46 PM
  #8  
HD74's Avatar
HD74
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 915
Likes: 1
From: Gunbarrel, Co.
Originally Posted by havi
Unfortunately, I can't find any pics. The trans I had came from a 1986 F250 2wd. Np435, T18, T19 all are similar, yet each can have a different way it mounts to the frame or output shaft and tailhousing. One thing I haven't done yet, is compare the 59T 4 speed with any other trans I have laying around. I would say the newer trans cases are a bit bigger, though. The tail section is what is totally different. The Hogshead on the flattie I have has 4 bolt holes that are offset a bit, which makes it different than the newer style 4 speeds, too. Machining a new hole pattern might work. T5's have adapter kits for the flattie, and that is the route I am taking, myself.
I've looked at the T-5 but didn't care for the shifter location. Even with a mid shifting tail section it put the shifter around 9 inch back from the orginal location.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

 Brett Foote
story-2

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-7

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Nov 19, 2008 | 05:59 PM
  #9  
HD74's Avatar
HD74
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 915
Likes: 1
From: Gunbarrel, Co.
I found an adapter plate from Wilcap. Hope to give them a call tomorrow. Still looking for 411.
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:26 PM
  #10  
HD74's Avatar
HD74
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 915
Likes: 1
From: Gunbarrel, Co.
T-19 if you haven't seen one.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
'50'sFever
Ford Truck Parts for Sale
4
Sep 27, 2014 05:25 AM
351Cleveland C4
The Next Generation
23
Sep 23, 2013 06:00 PM
redman84
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
17
May 29, 2013 12:38 PM
daisyq31
Escape & Escape Hybrid
0
May 8, 2013 10:25 AM
DRRXR
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
55
Jan 21, 2012 04:31 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:41 PM.

story-0
10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

Slideshow: 10 ways Ford is losing to the competition

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 09:52:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

Some great targets in today's expensive world.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 09:35:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-4
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-6
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE