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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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what trans?

I just acquired a 65 f100 in a trade with a 352 and a 4 speed with granny low. I've been trying to figure out which tranny it is and also if there's another option for a trans that's direct bolt in. I'm not big on fords so I have no idea whats out there for it.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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Welcome to the forum!!!

If you shift your truck into reverse by pushing the lever towards the dash it is a T-18 4 speed.

If you shift your truck into reverse by pulling the lever towards the seat then it is the NP-435 4 speed.

That is a quick way to start to identify what transmission you have. The other way will require you to remove the hump on the floor to look at the top cover of the transmission. The T-18 has a cap that retains the shift lever that screws to the top cover. The NP-435 cap presses down and you make a slight twist to look it into place. The T-18 I beleve has a cast iron top cover while the NP-435 has aluminum.

There could be some other ways to identify, but those are what I know and I am sure others will chime in with other ways.

As for other transmissions that could be bolted up to the 352 engine, the Cruise-O-Matic 3 speed automatic was a factory option, there was also a 3 speed on the tree manual, and a three speed over drive manual transmission. You can bolt up a C-6 3 speed automatic which are pretty much bullet proof and you will need one that is behind a 360/390 engine. The 352 engine is part of the FE engine family which consist of the 352/360/390/406/410/427/428.

With adaptors from the after market you might be able to bolt something else up, but it will be expensive.

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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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thanks. you confirmed what I read then. It seems like a c6 is probably the way to go. what would I look for one in at the junk yard?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Macdave06
thanks. you confirmed what I read then. It seems like a c6 is probably the way to go. what would I look for one in at the junk yard?
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1965 F100/350 352: Warner T98 4 Speed.

1965 F100/350 240/300 I-6 = Warner T-18 4 Speed.

T-18's weren't installed behind the 352 till 1966.

The TRANS code is listed on the 2nd line of the Warranty Plate, located on the left door face below the latch.

A = New Process 435 4 Speed.

F = Warner T-98.

The old MX Cruise-O-Matic was last used in 1967. Parts are getting scarce, and while it's a good trans, nothing beats a C6 for reliability.

1968/76 F100/350's w/360/390's used C6's, it was the only A/T available.

 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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everything I've found says the t-98 stopped at 64 in ford trucks.

I'm more interested in what will fit than what is in it though, so I'll figure out which trans it is when its out.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Macdave06
everything I've found says the t-98 stopped at 64 in ford trucks.
Have you got the 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog?

Obviously not.

Where do you think I got that info from I posted...from a crystal ball?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Have you got the 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog?

Obviously not.

Where do you think I got that info from I posted...from a crystal ball?
no need to get all defensive
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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You too can have the ford parts catalog from an online vender for 23.00 dollars and some shipping. I picked up the 64-72 and the 73-79 catalogs and they come in very handy for looking info up.

They take a little getting use to to find what you are looking for but there is a lot of good info in there to be found.

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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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cool. the guy I got it from I THINK has one. I know for sure he has a chilton manual but he hasnt given it to me
 
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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hipoparts.com sells Ford parts catalogs on a CD / Also sells them on ebay for a "buy it now" price.

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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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NP-435 4 speed

I have a question for Big Block. I have a 65 with the 4 spd with granny gear. I pull the shift lever back to go in reverse. This was my Dads farm truck with a lot of rough handeling. It's the vehicle that I learned to drive in.
The gear shift lever just kinda flops around & it won't stay in second gear.

I had the cover off the transmission & it seems like when I first put it back on It would stay in gear if you kept pressure on the stick. Now all it does is grind like it's not going in gear.

My question is; Can this part of the transmiision be rebuilt? Thanks, Royce
 
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Van Fink
I have a 65 with the 4 spd with granny gear. I pull the shift lever back to go in reverse. This was my Dads farm truck with a lot of rough handeling.
It's the vehicle that I learned to drive in.
The gear shift lever just kinda flops around & it won't stay in second gear.

I had the cover off the transmission & it seems like when I first put it back on It would stay in gear if you kept pressure on the stick. Now all it does is grind like it's not going in gear.

My question is; Can this part of the transmiision be rebuilt? Thanks, Royce
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There were two different 4 speed transmissions offered on these trucks.

One of them is the New Process 435, and my guess is, that's what you have.

The cap that holds the shift lever in place, has two notches on it that are retained by two pins that protrude from the shift tower.

The cap must be pressed down, and while holding it down, turned 1/4 to remove it.

Peeps do not know about this pressing down jazz, try turning it without pressing down, which tears out the caps two notches.

If the notches are gone, the shift lever will flop around and the lever can be pulled right out of the tower with the greatest of ease.

B8T7220D .. NP435 Shift Lever Retaining Cap / Available from Ford

MSRP: $7.59 / FTEpartsguy.com price: $4.64.
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On the ends of the 1-2 & 3-4 shift forks are two nylon inserts each.

If they are missing, that's another possible explanation why the lever isn't making a proper engagement.

However, it's more than likely if it grinds into gear, that more is wrong besides the shift lever problem.

The brass blocker rings on the syncro's are worn down to a nub.

 
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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Thanks

Thanks, I appreciate the help. I'll check it out & see if I can fix it. Did you have a part number on the nylon insert?
If that don't work I'd like to put a FMX that came out of 68 Galaxie LTD. It was behind a 390. Thanks Royce
 
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Van Fink
Thanks, I appreciate the help. I'll check it out & see if I can fix it. Did you have a part number on the nylon insert?
If that don't work I'd like to put a FMX that came out of 68 Galaxie LTD. It was behind a 390. Thanks Royce
The FMX is from a 1968 390 Galaxie??
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2) C2TZ7C430B .. 3-4 Shift Fork Nylon Insert

2) D2TZ7C430B .. 1-2 Shift Fork Nylon Insert.

Both these numbers just went obsolete, but are still available at many Ford dealers and obsolete parts vendors.

One example in your area:

Dennis Carpenter in Concord NC has 55 of C2TZ7C430B & 36 of D2TZ7C430B / 704-786-8139.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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1963 223 f100 unibody 3spd trans swap

are there any tannys with an extra gear i can swap to....5 spd or something?
 
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