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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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I've adjusted my gear-box, it took out a lot of slop and seems to be working great.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 23larry24
I've adjusted my gear-box, it took out a lot of slop and seems to be working great.
Larry you need a new box!... just listen to the posts.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by miker67
The trac bar will not contribute to wandering nearly as much as worn steering components. Guys, these boxes DO wear out. That adjusting screw is for setting the lash when all the components are in their original machined configuration. 9 times out of 10, when you adjust the gearboxes with that screw enough that the slop is gone, the box is so darn tight it won't auto return any more when you turn a corner.

Been running a fleet of 20+ trucks for the last 8 years now plus doing wrenching on the side. Never had any luck fixing the box. If the wandering bothers you to the point you need it fixed, I would suggest you save your clams and get a new/rebuilt box.
Miker....at what mileage have you seen the boxes fail?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by heymrdj
You need a box, up and done.

With that said, I need to find one for my 95 Bronco.
Yes! you have a 14 year old suv truck with how many miles?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WestxSRT10
Miker....at what mileage have you seen the boxes fail?
It hohnestly depends on how the truck is used. I have 4x4 rigs that see a fair amount of trail time or at least rough roads and they have gotten sloppy at 85k. Other 2x4 trucks that mainly see highway use have lasted 200k+.

It is not like a ball joint where you go out one day and suddenly have a clunk. Normally these boxes are a gradual deterioration over a period of time. It only is really evident if you don't drive the truck on a regular basis. You can drive it at 100k and it might seem ok, but by 135, you can feel wear, though if you were the daily operator of the rig you probably wouldnt feel any sudden transition because the change happens over thousands of miles.

If I were to average our wear, i would say we get 2-3 front ends out of a box. By that I mean, however much you use your vehicle, by the time you have swapped your tie rods and ball joints 2-3 times, your box is starting to wear too.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by miker67
It hohnestly depends on how the truck is used. I have 4x4 rigs that see a fair amount of trail time or at least rough roads and they have gotten sloppy at 85k. Other 2x4 trucks that mainly see highway use have lasted 200k+.

It is not like a ball joint where you go out one day and suddenly have a clunk. Normally these boxes are a gradual deterioration over a period of time. It only is really evident if you don't drive the truck on a regular basis. You can drive it at 100k and it might seem ok, but by 135, you can feel wear, though if you were the daily operator of the rig you probably wouldnt feel any sudden transition because the change happens over thousands of miles.

If I were to average our wear, i would say we get 2-3 front ends out of a box. By that I mean, however much you use your vehicle, by the time you have swapped your tie rods and ball joints 2-3 times, your box is starting to wear too.
OK... my 08 started to wandered after 4000 miles, I then adjusted the box lash properly after the break-in period, then tossed the factory stablizer replacing it with a double version. Drives like a dream now!

Adjusting a steering box is not a fix for a hi-miler worn out box.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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Hymrdj, steering gear box p/n f8tz3504acrm $271.29 list price reman unit. Check our website for your price. Dan.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by WestxSRT10
Yes! you have a 14 year old suv truck with how many miles?
14 year old truck with 110,000 highway miles, a good 1,000 or so in rough 4x4 country. Lots of steering at lower speeds there.

Originally Posted by y2kfordparts
Hymrdj, steering gear box p/n f8tz3504acrm $271.29 list price reman unit. Check our website for your price. Dan.
Hey thanks alot. I'll take a look at your stuff. A bit strapped for cash, getting the girlfriend a computer this xmas has kind of drained my wallet. But I'm hoping to change this out on my Bronco, along with some mods for the Expy this spring.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Budman1962
Did you replace the entire trac bar or just the bushings. The trac bar was going to be my next place to look.

Budman
I have a early 1999 f250 that uses smaller bushings than the later ones. I was told that there were not bushings avalible for it so I put in a new trac bar and bushings. It really did help with the herding. Wandering all over like I am herding cattle!
Matt
 
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Adjusting mine worked A-O-K. Don't know about the rest of you but $271.29, or whatever a box costs just aint easy to come by.
 
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